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02:17 < gmaxwell> andytoshi: Can I talk you into another crypto review?  https://github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1/pull/123  the last commit there (the other is just the branch it's based on) is the code. A description of what we're doing is in the comments.
02:21 < gmaxwell> (anyone who is not andytoshi whom wants to review modular algebra is also free to review. :) )
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02:25  * nsh imagines self standing on diving board above a empty swimming pool peppered with sharp pointy number theory
02:25 < nsh> *an
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03:05 < hearn> hello
03:09 < op_null> hello hearn.
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04:35 < sipa> andytoshi: just added a small derivation about why the simplification is correct; may help reviewing
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15:37 < amiller> new snarks paper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/976.pdf
15:37 < amiller> Geppetto, the successor to pinocchio
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15:46 < nsh> neat
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18:22 < andytoshi> gmaxwell: sipa: certainly, hopefully this week
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18:49 < Luke-Jr> http://i.imgur.com/lO0n3eC.png lol ☺
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18:57 < zooko> Hee hee!
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19:13 < rusty> gmaxwell: OK, so server sim seems to hit a steady state where it can only answer every second query after about 3000 queries (for 1 corrupt block in 100000), using an "xor 1,2,4,...2^n" psuedo-random function seeded by the query params.  So it works.
19:14 < rusty> gmaxwell: my next question is what if it outright lies; unless replies are signed you can't prove it (though you can tell people and they can replicate the query, but I worry about gaming in that case)
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19:21 < lechuga_> lol@Luke-jr
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19:36 < gmaxwell> amiller: do you know if anyone has published on this simplified concept about hardening random transcript auding with locally decodable codes?  It's the same fundimental thing that makes PCP theorem work, really, but it has some immediate applications to things like certificate transparency.  (e.g. there have been people who wanted to do DNSSEC inside CT and were immedately blown off by the working group because CT is only really ...
19:36 < gmaxwell> ... viable because auditing everything is cheap)
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20:08 < amiller> gmaxwell, i don't know of anything on it. when i looked into locally decodable codes i got hung up because they're not easy to verify that the encoding is done correctly
20:09 < amiller> that may or may not matter in this case
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23:32 < gmaxwell> somewhat amusing, I was asked to be on a panel at some local conference... it fit in my schedule so I agreed; ... looking at the schedule of events, all the "bitcoin" sessions are all altcoin people. :( http://www.futureofmoney.com/schedule
23:35 < op_null> your forehead is going to be sore after that one.
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23:36 < op_null> "Faster Payments"
23:37 < gmaxwell> I feel kinda dumb for agreeing now. Many of these conferences are basically 99% altcoin pumping; I asked who else they were asking to be on my panel and it was free of that, so I agreed... probably should have checked further first. Oh well.
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