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15:12 < nsh> any else (but petertodd, who i just noticed) attending 31c3?
15:12 < nsh> *anyone
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16:14 < rusty> maaku: you seem like the person to ask about UTXO commitment trees... what topology is best for the trees?
16:17 < rusty> (I want to cover them in my linux.conf.au talk subtitled "What I should have done in pettycoin"...)
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23:10 < maaku> rusty: any balanced tree would work, but PATRICIA tries have particularly good properties
23:12 < maaku> rusty: see the motivation section of this : https://gist.github.com/maaku/2aed2cb628024800044d
23:16 < maaku> rusty: actually one of the desireable requirements for a UTXO data structure not listed there is that final tree state does not depend on its history
23:17 < maaku> e.g. a red-black tree will always be balanced, but its specific structure depends on the order items were inserted and deleted
23:18 < maaku> i probably don't have to explain why it would be nice that any node can get the same merkle root from just the current UTXO yset, without having to replay the entire block chain histor
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