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Four is definitely overkill though. 10:20 < Eliel> bramc: the buster is the block withholding attack? 10:22 -!- jtimon [~quassel@user-5af5112f.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:22 < bramc> Eliel, Yeah, using multiple responses to a single challenge to form a block is busted by withholding, but making it so that the second one has a different challenge based on the results of the first one has less withholding problems because you can't guess how good others's supplements to the first one are likely to be. 10:22 < tromp> bram; you sound a bit like that holy handgrenade scene from Monty Python:) 10:23 < zooko> ☺ 10:23 < fluffypony> nobody expects the Spanish inquisition 10:23 < fluffypony> nobody. 10:24 < Eliel> bramc: I think you can at best reduce it to being about as vulnerable to block witholding as bitcoin's mining mechanism is. 10:24 < bramc> I'll explain things more clearly when I have something which works notably better than my last iteration 10:25 < bramc> Eliel, not really, there are inherent problems when there's no extra cost to mining a fork 10:29 -!- xenog [~xeno@46.7.118.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:31 < bramc> At the moment I *think* that doing three proofs of storage followed by a proof of time can basically nuke the pooling advantage from mining forks, but it gives a bonus to withholdings, so I need to work this all out. 10:31 -!- hearn [~mike@199-188-193-172.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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http://znc.sourceforge.net] 17:01 -!- mm_ [~mm@aftr-109-90-232-226.unity-media.net] has quit [] 17:03 -!- vmatekole [~vmatekole@g228096246.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04 -!- asoltys_ [~adam@li92-10.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07 -!- zooko [~user@97-122-214-213.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:07 -!- nuke1989 [~nuke@176.92.93.55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:14 -!- ryan-c [~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08a3cd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08a3cd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:16 < rusty> Is there a good primer on EC math anywhere? Coursera's Crypto I didn't cover it, and parsing wikipedia leads me down many garden paths... 17:17 < zooko> I don't really understand EC math myself, 17:17 < zooko> but, there is a lecture by DJB that seems to start from first principles. 17:17 < zooko> So... I'm not really aware of a good primer. :-( 17:18 < gwillen> rusty: crypto II is supposed to cover it, if he ever does that 17:19 < rusty> gwillen: indeed, and I'm signed up if and when... 17:19 < gwillen> current alleged start date is june 1 17:19 < gwillen> but we've heard that before ;-) 17:20 < justanotheruser> rusty: I like the wiki page tbh 17:20 < zooko> Hm, and I can't find that lecture that I saw. Sorry. 17:20 < rusty> zooko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTFxQaUJA ? 17:21 < kanzure> how about http://antoanthongtin.vn/Portals/0/UploadImages/kiennt2/BaiBao/DuLieu/2.State%20of%20the%20art%20in%20applied%20cryptography%201997-LNCS%201528/15280131.PDF 17:21 < zooko> rusty: that looks perfect. :-) 17:21 * zooko starts watching it 17:28 -!- PRab [~chatzilla@c-98-209-175-213.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 17:31 < zooko> Whoops, got to go. Just got to the part about how to get away from those tricky non-discrete trig formulas. :- 17:31 < zooko> ) 17:33 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTFxQaUJA 17:33 < yoleaux> ECCHacks - A gentle introduction to elliptic-curve cryptography [31c3] - YouTube 17:33 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:69e3:d9f4:1982:1985] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35 < brisque> I think a lot of people's introduction to bitcoin is hampered by people's poor explanations of ECDSA. you're better off knowing it's properties and otherwise black boxing it than having a half assed understanding that is ultimately meaningless. 17:36 < jcorgan> ^^ knowing how it behaves and what properties you can assume lets you make better decisions; understanding why those behaviors exist and why the properties are what they are is less important. 17:37 -!- orik [~orik@50-46-132-219.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41 -!- OneNomos [~OneNomos@pool-71-163-227-3.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:44 -!- OneNomos [~OneNomos@pool-71-163-227-3.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46 < brisque> that goes for a lot of things in bitcoin really. 17:46 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:46 < brisque> black boxing shad256d is a nice start. 17:50 -!- zooko` [~user@c-75-70-204-109.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:50 < jcorgan> and there aren't that many black boxes in bitcoin to understand 17:51 -!- woah [~woah@199-241-202-232.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:51 < brisque> sha256d and ecdsa are two that trip people up usually 17:51 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:52 -!- zooko [~user@97-122-214-213.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:52 -!- belcher [~belcher-s@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:53 < dgenr8> waiting for crypto II too. DJB is clearly a Knuth disciple as it relates to timelines 17:53 < jcorgan> well, pay-to-pubkey-hash seems to get universally black-boxed as "an address is an account that holds bitcoin" 17:55 < brisque> much to the damage of gmaxwell's forehead. 17:55 < jcorgan> even gribble, our saintly fount of all knowing, makes that mistake 17:56 < brisque> it's a lot due to block explorers and people's desire to try to "organise" things in particular ways, not realising accounts are a feature of the wallet and utterly unrelated to addresses. 17:58 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:59 -!- ryanxcharles [~ryan@64.124.157.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:59 < jcorgan> something as simple as "Redeemable Unspent Receipts" as a table header instead of "Addresses and Balances" would go a long way. But people see the latter in pretty much every wallet. 17:59 -!- OneNomos [~OneNomos@pool-71-163-227-3.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:59 -!- zooko` [~user@c-75-70-204-109.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00 < brisque> damage is already done. 18:01 < jcorgan> and showing two UTXOs with the same pubkey hash should be highlighted in red as "ambiguous" 18:02 < justanotheruser> !balance 1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX 18:02 < gribble> 0.51465589 18:02 < brisque> some PKH have tens or hundreds of thousands of UTXO, enough to crash any browser 18:04 < brisque> high water mark is 3 million total outputs for one address. 18:05 < jcorgan> dice? 18:05 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06 < brisque> you know it. 18:06 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08a3cd.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:06 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08a3cd.pool.mediaways.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:06 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:12 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@ip-131-212.pppoe.ssi.bg] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:12 -!- bigpup [~bigpuppy@pool-173-66-42-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:14 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15 -!- OneNomos [~OneNomos@pool-71-163-227-3.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08a3cd.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08a3cd.pool.mediaways.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:15 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:16 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:18 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@CPE-69-23-213-3.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:19 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:19 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:20 -!- justanot1eruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:21 -!- guruvan- [~guruvan@unaffiliated/guruvan] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:21 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21 -!- guruvan [~guruvan@unaffiliated/guruvan] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21 -!- BananaLotus [~BananaLot@irc.maza.club] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21 -!- Apocalyptic [~Apocalypt@unaffiliated/apocalyptic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21 -!- Apocalyptic_ [~Apocalypt@unaffiliated/apocalyptic] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:21 -!- Apocalyptic_ is now known as Apocalyptic 18:22 -!- guruvan- is now known as guruvan 18:23 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@CPE-69-23-213-3.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:26 -!- kyletorpey [~kyle@c-24-131-0-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 18:26 -!- grassass [grass@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ojxmtjoqpzxgwgjw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:27 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser 18:31 -!- BananaLotus [~BananaLot@irc.maza.club] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:36 -!- nickler [~nickler@185.12.46.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:40 -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08d205.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:40 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:44 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@CPE-69-23-213-3.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:50 -!- woah [~woah@199-241-202-232.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Crypto 1 was my first attempt at digging deeper. Little peeved there was no signature/ECC stuff :) 20:06 -!- p15 [~p15@111.193.181.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:07 -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08d205.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07 -!- p15 [~p15@111.194.194.55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:07 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08d205.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:07 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@gtng-4d08d205.pool.mediaways.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:07 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:08 -!- instagibbs [60ff5d39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.255.93.57] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:10 -!- skittylx [~skittylx@ks203868.kimsufi.com] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:19 -!- wyager [~wyager@nat-128-62-76-251.public.utexas.edu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:20 -!- wyager [~wyager@nat-128-62-76-251.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 20:23 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23 -!- cbeams 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