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09:23 < fluffypony> this is neat: http://notanumber.net/archives/183/cuckoo-byte-stuffing-algorithm
09:24 < fluffypony> looks like it'd be much more efficient than COBS
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10:07 < tromp> COBS?
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10:15 < fluffypony> tromp_: consistent overhead byte stuffing
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10:18 < oaavi> sounds delicious
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10:18 < gmaxwell> man, I'm sure I've seen before someone do an escape with PRNG replacement on hit that was pretty close to this but don't remember the name.
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13:00 < RastaRoyale> What do you think about the $120M "21" qualcomm deal?
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13:02 < RastaRoyale> It seems like people have been trying to get mobile wallets to end consumers forever.
13:03 < Adlai> you think a mobile wallet needs $120 stealth funding?
13:04 < RastaRoyale> I guess it's not so stealth if it's clear that qualcomm is involved?
13:04 < fluffypony> RastaRoyale: #bitcoin is that-a-way
13:06 < RastaRoyale>  ah thanks
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22:48 < fluffypony> http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2015/03/security-issue-combining-bcrypt-with.html?m=1
22:50 < fluffypony> basically PHP and the crypt library's implementations of bcrypt and some other hashing functions terminate on a null byte
22:50 < fluffypony> which is fine, until you pre-hash something and the output contains a string with null-bytes
22:50 < fluffypony> "The underlying problem is that combining cryptographic operators that weren't designed to be combined can be disasterous. Is it possible to do so safely? Yes. Is it a good idea to do it? No. This particular case is just one example where combining operations can be exceedingly dangerous."
22:51 < fluffypony> I guess half of the altcoins didn't get that memo...
22:51 < gmaxwell> man that page tool a lot of space to say the implementation wasn't binary clear.
22:52 < fluffypony> gmaxwell: hence my tl;dr :-P
22:52 < gmaxwell> fortunately most idiots will likely save themselves by feeding it the _hex_ of some other hash.
22:52 < gmaxwell> but indeed the point you're making from it is a good one.
22:53 < gmaxwell> Though I wish most of the broken things I've seen were even that subtle.
22:54 < fluffypony> I wonder if it isn't an inability of most of the "devs" to understand decentralised / assume malice / blockchain principles and then design conceptually with those in mind
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23:18 < brisque> fuffypony: ita a totally different mind state than lots of people are taught. you sprinkle on security afterwards rather than baking it in.
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23:20 < brisque> I've seen people several times post on bitcointalk with examples where they interfaced with bitcoind by passing input to a shell with bitcoin-cli, for example.
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23:21  * fluffypony shudders
23:23 < brisque> not to pretend that json RPC itself hasn't had sanitation problems.
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