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ZZZzzz…] 18:25 -!- afk11 [~thomas@89.100.72.184] has quit [K-Lined] 18:25 -!- d1ggy [~d1ggy@dslb-178-003-061-068.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:28 -!- d1ggy_ [~d1ggy@dslb-178-003-127-205.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:29 -!- chris13243 [~chris@72.62.244.43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:31 < maaku> since sequence numbers are basically useless, has anyone considered re-purposing them as a per-input relative locktime field? 18:31 -!- chris13243 [~chris@72.62.244.43] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32 < maaku> by itself it doesn't accomplish much, but if you had a CLTV-like opcode committed in the scriptPubKey it would allow a more reorg-safe relative lcoktime... 18:33 < kanzure> neat. 18:34 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:34 -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@xd9bf7368.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:40 < maaku> it would be sequences that actually work, although they'd work by counting backwards 18:48 < Luke-Jr> maaku: I've considered making it a transaction timestamp.. 18:54 -!- tcrypt [~tylersmit@173.247.206.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:03 -!- chris13243 [~chris@174-144-48-216.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:07 -!- chris13243 [~chris@174-144-48-216.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:10 -!- tdryja [~tx@s186.62.229.222.fls.vectant.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@239-196-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:24 -!- p15 [~p15@111.193.183.99] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:26 -!- p15_ [~p15@182.50.108.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:27 -!- belcher [~belcher-s@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38 -!- afk11 [~thomas@89.100.72.184] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:39 -!- p15x [~p15x@124.64.102.27] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:40 -!- afk11 [~thomas@89.100.72.184] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41 < maaku> Luke-Jr: how would that work? 19:42 < maaku> that seems more a use for nLockTime -- you set a locktime equal to gettime() 19:42 -!- Emcy [~MC@152.27.187.81.in-addr.arpa] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:42 -!- Emcy [~MC@152.27.187.81.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Changing host] 19:42 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:42 -!- p15 [~p15@111.193.183.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43 < Luke-Jr> maaku: well, you can set sequence to basically anything 19:44 < Luke-Jr> I just mean in a sense of an opt-in metadata 19:45 -!- Emcy_ [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:48 -!- p15 [~p15@198.50.160.97.static-ca.cryptolayer.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:51 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|sleep 19:52 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@162.244.138.37] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:52 -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:55 -!- tromp_ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:56 -!- ebfull [~ebfull@c-76-120-40-34.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57 -!- ebfull [~ebfull@c-76-120-40-34.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:07 -!- xenog [~xenog@ec2-54-186-18-161.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17 -!- ryanxcharles [~ryan@2601:9:4680:dd0:4bc:3bde:432a:79bd] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:23 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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