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[~Tiraspol3@x5ce0f0a6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:01 -!- Tiraspol [~Tiraspol3@x5ce0f0a6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 09:01 -!- Tiraspol [~Tiraspol3@unaffiliated/tiraspol] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:06 -!- www [~glorius@p50896D57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:06 < www> hey, one quick q. can a bitcoin tx contain multiple OP_RETURN outputs? 09:08 -!- LeapingLennie [~leapingle@ppp191-1.static.internode.on.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:08 < Luke-Jr> www: there is no such thing as "OP_RETURN outputs" at the protocol level; if you mean Core's reference spamfiltering, then no 09:09 < Luke-Jr> www: why do you think OP_RETURN is useful? 09:09 < www> trying to fit a signature of a msg into a bitcoin tx. signature seems to be 88 bytes 09:10 < Luke-Jr> hash it 09:10 < www> i hash the message 09:11 < Luke-Jr> no, hash the signature 09:11 < www> and then where to publish the sig? 09:11 < Luke-Jr> with the message 09:11 < www> the message is on chain 09:11 < Luke-Jr> then the recipient verifies the sig matches the message, and the H(sig) matches the commitment 09:11 < www> and less than 80 bytes 09:11 < Luke-Jr> well, then you're just doing it wrong :P 09:11 < Luke-Jr> you might also find https://github.com/Blockstream/contracthashtool useful 09:12 < www> using bitcore for message signing and verification 09:12 < www> is bad? 09:12 -!- nubbins` [~leel@unaffiliated/nubbins] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:12 < Luke-Jr> www: using the blockchain for messaging is bad 09:12 < www> ah, no, it is useful 09:12 < Luke-Jr> no, it isn't. it is clueless. 09:13 < www> ok mr overlord 09:13 < www> i obey 09:13 -!- LeapingLennie [~leapingle@ppp191-1.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:14 < www> i will try to keep your blockchain clean and pretty 09:19 < Luke-Jr> you asked how to do X, so I advised you how to do X. your hostility is not appropriate. 09:20 < www> i don't feel advised, i feel commanded 09:21 < www> maybe there is a way to make the sig shorter..? 09:25 -!- dEBRUYNE__ [~dEBRUYNE@239-196-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:29 < www> WTF Early on, the miner Eligius started putting Catholic prayers in English and Latin in the coinbase field of blocks they mined. Here are some samples: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photographs.html 09:30 -!- GGuyZ [~GGuyZ@c-50-177-80-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:30 < fluffypony> www: take it somewhere else, thanks. 09:30 < www> is this the same Luke-Jr here who put CATHOLIC prayers into bitcoins chain? 09:32 -!- nubbins` [~leel@unaffiliated/nubbins] has quit [Quit: Quit] 09:33 < Luke-Jr> fluffypony: I'm biased. Ought he be +q'd? 09:34 < fluffypony> if he shuts up or leaves of his own accord then no, but if he carries on blathering then yes 09:34 < fluffypony> now let's make that a smart contract and put it on the blockchain 09:34 < fluffypony> :-P 09:34 < Luke-Jr> :p 09:35 < www> have fun guys 09:35 -!- www [~glorius@p50896D57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 09:37 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:40 -!- GAit [~lnahum@2-230-161-158.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40 -!- roconnor [~roconnor@e120-pool-d89a79f4.brdbnd.voicenetwork.ca] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:41 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:42 -!- GAit [~lnahum@2-230-161-158.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:47 -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.10.214] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:52 -!- zmachine [uid53369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oybkeavpzzmnvmnj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:52 -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.10.214] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:59 -!- GGuyZ [~GGuyZ@c-50-177-80-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: GGuyZ] 10:02 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:09 -!- LeapingLennie [~leapingle@ppp191-1.static.internode.on.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:11 -!- LeapingL_ [~leapingle@ppp191-1.static.internode.on.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:11 -!- LeapingLennie [~leapingle@ppp191-1.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:15 -!- kmels [~kmels@186.151.60.184] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:15 -!- LeapingL_ [~leapingle@ppp191-1.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:18 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20 -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:20 -!- sbos99 [~superbos@79.114.31.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:23 -!- arubi_ [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:24 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:24 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:27 -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-198-85.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:27 -!- nubbins` [~leel@unaffiliated/nubbins] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:29 -!- nubbins` [~leel@unaffiliated/nubbins] has quit [Client Quit] 10:30 -!- maraoz [~maraoz@181.29.97.171] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:35 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:39 -!- gill3s [~gill3s@pat35-3-82-245-143-153.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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