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ZZZzzz…] 13:50 -!- jmcn_ [~jamie@2.24.158.70] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:51 -!- Guest31057 is now known as maaku 13:51 < weex> how are SPV nodes likely to handle an unresolved hard fork? for nodes they are talking to, would they know which chain that node is on? 13:53 < maaku> depends on the fork 13:53 < weex> maaku: as in what is changed? 13:53 -!- jmcn [~jamie@2.24.158.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:53 < maaku> yeah 13:53 < weex> assuming it's just block size limit 13:54 < maaku> then its completely transparent to an spv node 13:54 < maaku> which doesn't see whole blocks and has no idea how big a given block is 13:55 < weex> is there any upgrade an SPV node could do then to figure that out? 13:55 < weex> without some other bad side effects i mean 13:56 <@Luke-Jr> a consensus rule could have blocks commit to their size 13:57 < weex> but that would require a hard fork or no? 13:57 <@Luke-Jr> yes 13:57 <@Luke-Jr> well, maybe only softfork if you throw it in the generation tx 13:59 < weex> i'm thinking of writing about how an unresolved hard fork screws up SPV nodes but could use some sources that help paint the picture 13:59 < maaku> some block limit fork proposals may be visible to spv nodes 13:59 < maaku> e.g. difficulty adjustment (gmaxwell's proposal) 14:00 < maaku> weex: i'm not sure you can say unresolved hard forks screw up SPV nodes in particular (compared to other nodes) 14:00 < weex> well if they can't even tell which side they're on, as opposed to full nodes, that seems a targeted screwing 14:01 -!- pollux-bts [uid52270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vllzvwdowpsaejio] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:03 < maaku> weex: that's what you buy into with SPV though 14:03 < maaku> the blocks could be invalid for other reasons too 14:03 -!- AnoAnon [~AnoAnon@197.39.201.247] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:03 < maaku> the whole idea is you don't know if the blocks are valid or not, you're just trusting the miners. so i'm not sure how the special case of an unresolved hard fork is different... 14:03 -!- AnoAnon [~AnoAnon@197.39.201.247] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04 -!- binaryFate [~binaryFat@94.139.57.106] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:05 < weex> it enables some miners to report on longer chains of bad, from the majority perspective, blocks with increased chance of being relayed onto SPV nodes 14:05 < Eliel> you could probably minimize the issues by making different conflicting requirements about new blocks on each end of the chain. Same for transactions. 14:08 < weex> Eliel: right, i'd like to keep it simple, not assuming additional changes to a basic block size limit change 14:10 < weex> if there's anything else i should read (past threads?) on this, i 14:10 < weex> 'll check back, thanks 14:10 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:16 -!- Quanttek [~quassel@ip1f10af17.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:17 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:19 -!- Populus [Populus@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-iwsmrrwlgocmnrlk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36 -!- darwin_ [~darwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37 -!- darwin_ [~darwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:43 -!- xcthulhu [~mpwd@pine.noqsi.com] has quit [Quit: xcthulhu] 14:43 -!- n0n0_ [~n0n0___@x5f77b0b2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:48 -!- xcthulhu [~mpwd@pine.noqsi.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:51 -!- zooko [~user@c-73-181-114-39.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52 -!- blackwraith [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:52 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:53 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 14:54 -!- _biO__ [~biO_@ip-37-24-195-112.hsi14.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:09 -!- JackH [~Jack@host-80-43-142-154.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:09 -!- kgk [~kgk@76.14.85.43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:09 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:12 -!- MoALTz_ [~no@78.11.179.104] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:16 -!- trstovall [uid81706@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mzjivzdosgogfofw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:16 -!- MoALTz [~no@78.11.179.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:20 -!- hulkhogan_ [WW@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-pmcghtfioilvruxh] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:23 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:32 -!- hashtag_ [~hashtag@cpe-69-23-213-3.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32 -!- trstovall [uid81706@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxsnmispbumgcsft] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:33 -!- hulkhogan_ [WW@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-nxnwmmtwjchyezyb] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:43 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:47 -!- Populus [Populus@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-olgqjdndastnmcqa] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:47 -!- Populus [Populus@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-olgqjdndastnmcqa] has quit [Changing host] 15:47 -!- Populus [Populus@unaffiliated/populus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:47 -!- Populus [Populus@unaffiliated/populus] has quit [Changing host] 15:47 -!- Populus [Populus@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-olgqjdndastnmcqa] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:49 -!- blackwraith [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:52 -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:52 -!- JackH [~Jack@host-80-43-142-154.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:54 -!- prodatalab [~prodatala@2602:306:ceef:a750:9ce5:91de:fdfa:3e2f] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:56 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@239-196-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20 -!- kgk [~kgk@76.14.85.43] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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