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16:57 < shen_noe> and since P_s = x_s G then P_s + C_s - \sum C_out is also a commitment to zero 16:57 -!- jmcn_ [~jamie@2.24.158.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:57 -!- MoALTz__ [~no@78.11.179.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:58 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:59 -!- jmcn_ [~jamie@2.24.158.63] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:00 -!- Quanttek [~quassel@2a02:8108:73f:f6e4:e23f:49ff:fe47:9364] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00 -!- MoALTz [~no@78.11.179.104] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:02 -!- jmcn [~jamie@2.24.158.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:06 -!- jmcn [~jamie@2.24.158.74] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:09 -!- jmcn_ [~jamie@2.24.158.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:10 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@x4d08d8e9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:10 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@x4d08d8e9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 17:10 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has 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It also ignores the fact that the non-linear compression functions in every other PHC are almost certantly universal in the same way (with sutiable preprocessing); yet many of them have strong 18:42 < gmaxwell> proofs about their behavior that show their action is not trivial. 18:43 < gmaxwell> then the next thread is someone rediscovering collission hashcash POW, and then shortly there after realizing that it its trivially paralizable and has significant TMTO. 18:43 -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@wired094.math.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:45 -!- CodeShark [~textual@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:45 -!- CodeShark [~textual@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:47 -!- FranzKafka [~FranzKafk@2002:792c:af3b:e472:5d9a:1450:b55b:87c7] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:49 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:49 < bramc> Hey everybody 18:49 -!- FranzKafka [~FranzKafk@2002:792c:be0c:e472:58c8:dab8:c462:2694] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:49 < midnightmagic> HI bram! 18:50 < bramc> I gave a talk on cryptocurrencies generally at the bitcoin-dev meeting in sf on monday. Hopefully it will be posted online soon. 18:53 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:53 -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@x4d08ad6c.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:54 < bramc> Also made this less controversial than I expected post: https://medium.com/@bramcohen/the-inevitable-demise-of-unconfirmed-bitcoin-transactions-8b5f66a44a35 18:54 < CodeShark> heh - you did write that up :) 18:55 < bramc> CodeShark, Yes I was totally serious about working on it. Next up: A post on basic fee setting strategy. 18:56 -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@162.216.46.163] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:00 -!- Guest59127 [~jae@2601:645:c001:263a:9dc1:33a1:da08:276b] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01 -!- mengine [~mengine@251.92-221-142.customer.lyse.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:15 -!- jmcn_ [~jamie@2.24.158.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:16 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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He's mistaken. And by that I do not mean it's not worth working on. Only that nobody really is. 22:11 -!- shen_noe [~holoirc@172.56.39.167] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:11 < CodeShark> solving which problem? the public perception? or the fact that zero confirmation transactions aren't really secure? 22:12 < CodeShark> or double-spend detection? 22:13 < CodeShark> fairly reliable double-spend detection would already be a significant breakthrough :) 22:13 < CodeShark> the "only relay first" policy makes it trivially simple to split the network 22:13 < petertodd> CodeShark: double-spends can happen succesfully well after the first tx, even without miners adopting rbf 22:13 < dgenr8> CodeShark: no need to convince me 22:14 < petertodd> CodeShark: just run a full-rbf node and watch the logs, you see lots of succesful doublepsends 22:14 < CodeShark> petertodd: yes, I'm not saying that absence of a double-spend detection implies the unconfirmed transaction is safe :) 22:15 < CodeShark> I'm just pointing out that our current tools don't even do this particularly well 22:15 < petertodd> CodeShark: point is, without the ability to do something about the double-spend, it doesn't help much 22:15 < CodeShark> petertodd: you can if you're selling services like web hosting :) 22:15 < dgenr8> petertodd: doing something about it is not the realm of bitcoin. it's in the realm of real life 22:16 < petertodd> CodeShark: if you're selling web-hosting, learning about the double-spend when the tx confirms is fine 22:16 < petertodd> dgenr8: ^ 22:16 < dgenr8> CodeShark: bramc compares zeroconf to life before bitcoin. that fails to ask how the existence of the blockchain alters the problem. i've looked into it somewhat https://github.com/dgenr8/out-there/blob/master/ds-dep-win.md 22:18 -!- jae [~jae@c-98-234-63-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:18 < CodeShark> ultimately I think the blockchain is a dispute resolution mechanism. problem is we have no retroactive repudiation mechanisms :) 22:18 -!- jae is now known as Guest26502 22:18 < CodeShark> it's a feature...and a flaw 22:19 < CodeShark> depending on your point of view :) 22:20 -!- _whitelogger [whitelogge@fehu.whitequark.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:21 < CodeShark> I think it's dangerous to rely on relay nodes enforcing rules. unfortunately, we've sort of ended up in exactly this situation 22:21 < gmaxwell> relay nodes enforcing doesn't do much good in any case. 22:23 -!- Guest26502 [~jae@c-98-234-63-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:23 -!- snthsnth [~snthsnth@c-98-207-208-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:24 < dgenr8> there's a tendency to define the p2p network as what it isn't, and if everything you hear is true, it's not much of anything ;) otoh if having contracts with miners is bad, the p2p network has to be something. 22:27 < gmaxwell> dgenr8: what do you know about people making "contracts" with miners? 22:29 < dgenr8> only what coinbase wrote on the mailing list, which seemed a natural reaction to full-rbf 22:32 -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:32 -!- p15x_ [~p15x@64.145.91.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:45 -!- shen_noe [~holoirc@172.56.39.167] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:49 -!- _whitelogger [whitelogge@fehu.whitequark.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:50 -!- p15x_ [~p15x@111.194.197.175] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:51 -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:52 -!- snthsnth [~snthsnth@c-98-207-208-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:54 -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EAB34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:54 -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.75] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:56 -!- p15x_ [~p15x@111.194.197.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:59 -!- p15x_ [~p15x@111.193.165.68] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:59 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:00 -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:10 -!- davi [~davi@gnu/davi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:19 -!- jae [~jae@2601:645:c001:263a:e4bf:9196:7a9e:ae14] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:20 -!- jae is now known as Guest35932 23:21 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:23 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-28-8.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:24 -!- Guest35932 [~jae@2601:645:c001:263a:e4bf:9196:7a9e:ae14] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:29 -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3A97A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:31 -!- davi [~davi@gnu/davi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:42 -!- bendavenport [~bpd@c-50-131-42-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bendavenport] --- Log closed Sat Jul 04 00:00:00 2015