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07:10 -!- esneider [~esneider@181.29.97.100] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:21 < nsh> azariah, track record 07:21 < nsh> he wrote a book on bitcoin theory, a lot of it was incorrect 07:21 < nsh> iirc 07:25 -!- the`doctor [~matt@static-108-47-15-123.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:27 < kanzure> some snarks stuff https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1201029.0 07:35 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:35 -!- metamarc [~cypher@unaffiliated/agorist000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:36 < nsh> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss3u3eP_9d0 07:36 < yoleaux> The Gospel According to TCS - YouTube 07:37 < nsh> (very good synoptic talk on progress of theoretical computer science, accessible, gets into the importance of zk as way of finding and securing the structure of problemspace) 07:38 -!- cypher__ [~cypher@97.95.172.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:38 < nsh> or at least, explicatively, it was finding that the proving power in zk is NP that opened the door to a bunch of other exciting developments since 07:39 -!- TBI_ [~TBI@84.48.195.20] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:40 -!- TBI [~TBI@84.48.195.20] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:40 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@ww010488.uvt.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:42 < nsh> ('Proofs that yield nothing but their validity or all languages in NP have zero-knowledge proof systems' by O Goldreich, S Micali, A Wigderson - Journal of the ACM (JACM), 1991, ACM is now cited 1121 times) probably more than euclid or darwin's work directly 07:42 < nsh> ) 07:43 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@ww010488.uvt.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:45 -!- ratbaneb_ [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:7c30:f8c9:2d54:ac1a] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:46 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [] 07:47 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:47 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@78-23-10-185.access.telenet.be] 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The whole notion of bitcoin as a decenteralized system where having no one "in charge" of it is an important security property. 09:43 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:43 < fluffypony> yep 09:43 < gmaxwell> ... really blows quite a few people up. 09:43 < kanzure> i would imagine the experience is sort of angering; "what do you mean this is using a model i've never even heard of? that's ridiculous" :-) 09:44 < fluffypony> I also think people are surprised to understand that anyone can fork the project and provide a compelling reason for people to switch to "their" version, as has happened a myriad times in the past with so many FOSS projects 09:44 < fluffypony> they can't understand how nobody can "own" the code 09:44 < jcorgan> and the idea of bitcoin core devs "controlling" bitcoin is a myth; core devs can only propose changes (releases) and it is up to the users of the system to accept or reject consensus rule changes 09:45 < kanzure> as bitcoin continues to grow, bitcoin will increasingly be people's first introduction to open-source software, or even academic criticism, and especially cryptography, or even basic software engineering principles (eventually) 09:45 < kanzure> and perhaps one day people's first introduction to "money".. but whatever. 09:46 < gmaxwell> As far as ledger goes, my view was that vitalik's involvement has been low; he gets signed up for all sorts of stuff. He isn't usually the sort to go throwing his weight around... and he has been one of the more enjoyable people in the bitcoin space to disagree with, at least for me. (I say this not discounting the above complaints). 09:47 < kanzure> "ah but first you need to meditate for 7 years as a debian developer" 09:47 -!- notj [~notj@dhcp-18-189-47-144.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:47 < gmaxwell> fluffypony: people reconize the tremendous power of inertia and defaults; and it's true and real-- but they carry it too far. 09:48 < jcorgan> inertia + defaults + network effect = very strong equilibrium at the status quo 09:49 < jcorgan> changes that would break the network effect (consensus rule changes) would have to be enormously, obviously beneficial to a large fraction of users to break past that 09:50 < gmaxwell> Yep. 09:50 < jcorgan> these are properties that few (if any?) other kind of FOSS has 09:50 < fluffypony> gmaxwell: I take umbrage with him being involved in any formal peer review, no matter how low his involvement is. That would almost be as bad as asking him to run a company with millions of dollars in seed funding. 09:50 < fluffypony> oh...wait... 09:50 < gmaxwell> These effect exist elsewhere; esp any protocols; but they're stronger for bitcoin and in bitcoin they have independant virtue. 09:54 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 09:54 < kanzure> "only once you have experienced the pain of a hundred conflicting packages in a nasty web of dependencies, can you call yourself a free software developer" heh 09:55 < kanzure> (of course i don't mean it; but it does seem strangely difficult to transfer bazaar-style development knowledge to newcomers.) 09:56 -!- matsjj [~matsjj@p5B209E34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:56 < jcorgan> some types of knowledge are only possible to obtain through experience and pain, either your own, or those who came before you. you pick :-) 09:57 -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p5B209E34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:57 -!- notj [~notj@dhcp-18-189-47-144.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux. 17:56 -!- JackH [~Jack@host-80-43-141-235.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:57 < jgarzik> GreenIsMyPepper, :) 17:59 < gmaxwell> tehehe 17:59 < gmaxwell> "or linux--" 17:59 * nsh smiles 18:01 -!- JackH [~Jack@host-80-43-141-235.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:02 -!- kmels [~kmels@184.62.151.186.static.intelnet.net.gt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:06 -!- notj [~notj@c-76-119-235-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:08 -!- superobserver [~superobse@unaffiliated/superobserver] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:30 -!- kmels [~kmels@184.62.151.186.static.intelnet.net.gt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:31 -!- prosodyC is now known as prosody 18:32 -!- bramc [~bram@38.99.42.130] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:43 -!- bramc [~bram@38.99.42.130] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:48 -!- metamarc [~cypher@unaffiliated/agorist000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:51 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:54 -!- kmels [~kmels@184.62.151.186.static.intelnet.net.gt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:58 -!- esneider [~esneider@181.94.16.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:01 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 19:02 -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@x4d08a44a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:16 -!- esneider [~esneider@181.94.16.90] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:31 -!- King_Rex [~King_Rex@unaffiliated/king-rex/x-3258444] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42 -!- orik [~orik@50-46-139-225.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:50 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@78-23-10-185.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:01 -!- zooko [~user@50-195-79-178-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:24 -!- orik [~orik@50-46-139-225.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:37 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:47 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:50 -!- zooko [~user@50-195-79-178-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57 -!- snthsnth [~snthsnth@c-98-207-208-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:58 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:09 -!- RedEmerald [~RedEmeral@2601:646:4100:c5:11:cdff:fe00:1a0b] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10 -!- publius1788 [~publius17@104.200.154.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:10 -!- RedEmerald [~RedEmeral@c-73-231-129-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:10 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@78-23-10-185.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 21:17 -!- bitri [~bitri@cpe-74-71-130-222.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:34 -!- bitri [~bitri@cpe-74-71-130-222.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:34 -!- esneider [~esneider@181.94.16.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36 -!- esneider [~esneider@181.94.16.90] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:47 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:47 < fluffypony> https://tersesystems.com/2015/10/05/effective-cryptography-in-the-jvm/ 21:47 < fluffypony> .title 21:47 < yoleaux> Effective Cryptography in the JVM - 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