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01:28 < azariah> maaku: how has vitalik "been plagarizing the entire bitcoin space" ? from what I've seen he's often refering to and crediting previous work in the Bitcoin space, BIPs, bitcointalk threads, etc in his blog posts and other writings.
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01:43 < phantomcircuit> azariah, he only does so after he's called out on failing to do it
01:43 < phantomcircuit> and then still fails to credit things correctly
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04:51 < nsh> .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature15263.html
04:51 < nsh> i am become qubit, the devourer of worlds
04:51 < nsh> ' Here we present a two-qubit logic gate, which uses single spins in isotopically enriched silicon14 and is realized by performing single- and two-qubit operations in a quantum dot system using the exchange interaction, as envisaged in the Loss–DiVincenzo proposal2. We realize CNOT gates via controlled-phase operations combined with single-qubit operations. Direct gate-voltage control provides single-qubit addressability, together with a switchable exc
04:51 < nsh> hange interaction that is used in the two-qubit controlled-phase gate. By independently reading out both qubits, we measure clear anticorrelations in the two-spin probabilities of the CNOT gate.'
05:08 < nsh> also http://www.nature.com/news/the-future-of-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-and-beyond-1.18447
05:08 < nsh> (hold your nose)
05:15 < moa> and pat the top of your head while rubbing your tummy
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05:29  * nsh smiles
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12:57 < psztorc> re: Nature article.     ...painful to read.
12:58 < psztorc> One could tear it apart, but, you know, journalists exist to sell themselves (ie, tell people what they want to hear).
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12:59 < bsm1175321> Which article?
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13:00 < psztorc> Sorry, the nature *news* article: http://www.nature.com/news/the-future-of-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-and-beyond-1.18447
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13:02 < bsm1175321> Anyone here want to present a paper in my journal club in NYC? http://blog.sldx.com/announcing-whitepaper-wednesdays/
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13:05 < kanzure> someone should tell w3c about compact spv proofs http://interledger.org/
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13:05 < kanzure> preferably someone who can actually tolerate w3c
13:06 < kanzure> oh it is ripple people
13:08  * bsm1175321 adds interledger to his ignore list.
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13:09 < kanzure> ignoring it is probably bad- two-phase commit is generally a good idea, and there's some merit to the idea of atomic cross-chain trading, but it would be better to inform the standards bodies that there are solutions out there that they should be considering
13:10 < bsm1175321> Given that this seems to be a Ripple initiative, they have their centralized solution already...
13:10 < bsm1175321> I'm really not a fan of atomic cross-chain trading due to the large timeouts and backout transactions required.
13:11 < kanzure> also there are other techniques which could use compact spv proofs but otherwise use lightning network stuff like http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/010909.html
13:11 < bsm1175321> I think there's a better solution to the fair 2-party exchange problem that we haven't seen yet.
13:11 < kanzure> actually i don't remember why i didn't include spv proofs in that email
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13:13 < bsm1175321> I'd love to have a journal club on lightning networks. I haven't had a chance to dig into that topic yet...
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13:29 < nwilcox> 13:11 < bsm1175321> I think there's a better solution to the fair 2-party exchange problem that we haven't seen yet.
13:29 < nwilcox> I'm all ears. ;-p
13:29 < bsm1175321> As am I ;-)
13:30 < bsm1175321> Here's one idea http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.20.1276
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13:55 < bsm1175321> kanzure, Taek: what's the latest on wiki-fying your bookmarks?  I have another volunteer to throw at the effort... (And I still didn't set up the wiki itself like I promised...)
13:56 < Taek> bsm1175321: another meeting tonight. We'll be working on the same pages that we started last time
13:56 < Taek> Txn fees page is ~complete, as far as getting started goes
13:56 < bsm1175321> Where is your github for *.md files again?
13:56 < Taek> https://github.com/DavidVorick/knosys
13:57 < Taek> I'm going to be focusing on the uxto page tonight
13:57 < Taek> I think the readme + transaction fees.md give a good example of what I'm currently aiming for things to look like
13:57 < bsm1175321> Ok, sounds good. Send me your email privately and I'll copy you in mailing this new volunteer.
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14:26 < kanzure> bsm1175321: plz use kanzure@gmail.com in the future for me
14:27 < bsm1175321> ok
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