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quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:48 -!- hashtag [~hashtag@cpe-98-157-211-2.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:49 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@cpe-98-157-211-2.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:54 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wmpwalhzkkkjcjtz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:55 -!- orik [~orik@50-46-139-225.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:58 < bsm117532> Don't worry, the Doctor will soon arrive to transport you to 1980, when we all used fixed length database records, and electronic money was recently introduced under the moniker "ATM". 17:58 -!- snthsnth [~snthsnth@c-98-207-208-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:59 < bsm117532> Merkle set woes, I take it? 18:00 < kanzure> probably memory allocation problems 18:00 < bsm117532> Reasons to prototype in python... :-/ 18:03 < kanzure> well, he was 18:03 < kanzure> so i'll change my guess to diff algorithm problems 18:04 -!- orik 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An intermediate node has: The number of shared bits below the parent, those bits, references to where left and right are stored, and a secure hash 18:45 < bramc> Obviously these are different lengths. The real problems come in when a block becomes full, and you can't just change a leaf into an intermediate node because it doesn't have enough room 18:47 < bramc> My inclination for basic memory management is to sweep: append to the used area of a block at the end, when it becomes full compact it back down. That doesn't fix the overflow problem though. 18:48 -!- domyhomework [01886073@gateway/web/freenode/ip.1.136.96.115] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:48 -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:49 < bramc> One thing you can and should do on overflow is split the current block in half. That works fine except when the current block only has one input and can't be split any more 18:49 < domyhomework> Is anyone in here bored enough to explain to me how or why the Bitcoin Foundation failed for a Masters study? 18:52 < bramc> I don't know what a masters study is, but the bitcoin foundation is a, ahem, sketchy organization which most people want nothing to do with. 18:52 -!- nwilcox [~nwilcox@172.56.16.129] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:52 < bramc> It doesn't have much left in the way of operations 18:53 < phantomcircuit> domyhomework, do your own homework 18:57 < domyhomework> phantomcircuit: In a way I am as there's little information other than media bites and morsels from reddit/foundation forum. I'm hoping that the community will help me piece together whether or not they actually had a Strategy. I don't believe they were corrupt. However there's little information to go on. 19:00 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:01 < phantomcircuit> domyhomework, i'll give you only one piece of info, checkout the founding members 19:02 < domyhomework> So a primary factor was pressure from external institutional influences? 19:03 < phantomcircuit> domyhomework, sigh 19:03 < phantomcircuit> no they were criminals! 19:03 < phantomcircuit> duh 19:03 -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@x4d08dbcc.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:05 < domyhomework> So you're saying that the Bitcoin Foundation is inherently criminal? 19:05 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@76-255-129-88.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:06 < phantomcircuit> oy 19:06 < phantomcircuit> domyhomework, do your own homework 19:09 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:13 -!- nwilcox [~nwilcox@172.56.16.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:17 -!- King_Rex [~King_Rex@unaffiliated/king-rex/x-3258444] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:54 -!- davispuh [~quassel@212.93.100.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00 -!- dstadulis [~dstadulis@c-73-189-234-152.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 20:08 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:10 -!- orik_ [~orik@50-46-139-225.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:10 -!- orik [~orik@50-46-139-225.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11 -!- orik_ is now known as orik 20:19 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:33 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:34 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:37 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:39 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:44 -!- sparetire_ [~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire] has quit [Quit: sparetire_] 20:54 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:11 -!- CodeShark [~androirc@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:12 -!- uniken510 [~quassel@62.210.109.115] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:14 < ryan-c> I'm not sure whether I am more amused that someone sent some bitcoin to addresses created by using block hashes as private keys or that someone had a bot set up to sweep the outputs. 21:16 -!- bramc [~bram@99-75-88-206.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:20 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has quit [Quit: Newyorkadam] 21:25 -!- esneider [~esneider@181.94.16.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:32 -!- CodeShark [~androirc@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - 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