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09:18 < zooko> Who's going to Scaling Bitcoin Hong Kong?
09:18 < zooko> I'm like 90% committed to going.
09:18 < zooko> I want a bunch of other people who are >90% committed to pull me along.
09:18 < zooko> This is a two phase commit protocol.
09:18 < zooko> (N phase.)
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09:28 < bramc> Essay is up https://medium.com/@bramcohen/how-wallets-can-handle-transaction-fees-ff5d020d14fb
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09:31 < kanzure> bramc: "need no lay down" -> "need to lay down"
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09:32 < kanzure> no claims to accuracy but in addition to video link perhaps text link http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/transaction-fee-estimation/
09:33 < bramc> Since this essay is an expansion of the talk, a transcript of the talk is likely mostly an inferior version
09:35 < maaku> zooko: I'm committed
09:36 < maaku> just need to find time to write proposals for talks :\
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09:40 < zooko> maaku: awesome.
09:40 < zooko> bramc: Hong Kong?
09:40 < zooko> kanzure: Hong Kong?
09:42 < kanzure> nope, probably not
09:44 < zooko> ok
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09:45 < kanzure> i could be convinced but someone will have to put in the effort to do so
09:46 < bramc> I am not in or going to hong kong
09:46 < zooko> kanzure: Your service as scribe was so widely praised last time, maybe the organizers would fly you to HK in return for scribing.
09:46 < zooko> bramc: ok
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11:04 < bsm1175321> I'm going to HK for the next Scaling
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11:17 < andytoshi> zooko: i'll be there
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11:26 < gmaxwell> FWIW, I plugged this channel in BCF devcore today.
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11:27 < kanzure> is there a video feed? haven't found a link yet.
11:27 < gmaxwell> Seems not!
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11:30 < zooko> andytoshi: yay!
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11:30 < zooko> bsm1175321: have we met?
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11:34 < bitcoin-wizards5> As a non-developer, I am curous whether anyone here is planning to buy the 21 computer? If so, what do you plan to do with it? Thanks.
11:35 < kanzure> wrong channel
11:35 < kanzure> use #bitcoin
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11:52 < MRL-Relay> [shen] yesterdays post with at expanded sketch of tag-linkability theorems (section 5): https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/blob/master/RingCT0.3.pdf any feedback welcome
11:53 < MRL-Relay> [shen] also if anyone has a reference for the signatures in section 3.2, would be very happy
12:02 < gmaxwell> :-/ that pdf link doesn't yield a PDF.
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12:03 < MRL-Relay> [shen] ahh sorry.. hmm.. it does on mine (chrome)? hows docdroid?
12:04 < MRL-Relay> [shen] http://www.docdroid.net/jwM6Qsr/ringct03.pdf.html
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12:29 < MRL-Relay> [othe] https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.3.pdf use the raw shen
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12:30 < MRL-Relay> [shen] I see, thanks
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12:37 < gmaxwell> adam3us: https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.3.pdf
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14:16 < kanzure> anyone know papers about signal-noise ratio studies for online communities?
14:17 < kanzure> i am particularly interested ins tudies of increasing signal over time, not just the dreaded signal decay function
14:17 < kanzure> i'd be interested in even basic contributions like testable definitions of signal and whether it's the same kind of information theoretic signal
14:19 < helo> there are so many interesting sociological studies that could be done (but probably never will be)
14:19 < kanzure> like what?
14:20 < helo> it takes an expert understanding of sociology, information theory, and the particular domain being assessed, so i think the barrier is just too high
14:22 < helo> leadership in decentralized communities
14:22 < kanzure> expertise is overrated; tell me the details.
14:22 < helo> i don't have details, i should have used "i'm sure there are so many..."
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16:50 < kanzure> "A toy crypto-currency based on a discrete logarithm zero-knowledge protocol, in <95 lines" https://github.com/vpostman/logcoin
16:50 < kanzure> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10402312
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18:49 < gmaxwell> WOOT. google books case is great
18:50 < gmaxwell> The ultimate goal of copyright is to expand public knowledge and understanding, which
18:50 < gmaxwell> 14 copyright seeks to achieve by giving potential creators exclusive control over copying of their
18:50 < gmaxwell> 15 works, thus giving them a financial incentive to create informative, intellectually enriching
18:51 < gmaxwell> 16 works for public consumption. This objective is clearly reflected in the Constitution’s
18:51 < gmaxwell> 17 empowerment of Congress “To promote the Progress of Science . . . by securing for limited
18:51 < gmaxwell> 1 Times to Authors . . . the exclusive Right to their respective Writings.” U.S. Const., Art. I, § 8,
18:51 < gmaxwell> 2 cl. 8) (emphasis added). 11 Thus, while authors are undoubtedly important intended beneficiaries
18:51 < gmaxwell> 3 of copyright, the ultimate, primary intended beneficiary is the public, whose access to knowledge
18:51 < gmaxwell> 4 copyright seeks to advance by providing rewards for authorship.
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