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ZZZzzz…] 19:26 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:37 < OxADADA> The elegant irony of the term "Nakamoto Consensus" is that the Japanese ideograms of Nakamoto (中本) means "Central Truth" 19:39 < OxADADA> so i hope whoever came up with the name "Nakamoto" placed the centrality in the math and not the politics :P 19:40 < sipa> if that was intentional, it's the best troll in the history of mankind 19:40 < sipa> satoshi really wanted central control :p 19:41 < OxADADA> hehe, nakamoto literally wanted to be both the namesake and central authority. thats either the best troll ever, or horrifying. 19:42 < OxADADA> i was biking home from the pub tonight, and realized that "Nakamoto" means "Central source" in Japanese and had to mention it in #bitcoin-wizards. 19:43 <@gmaxwell> perhaps not really the right understanding of 'centeral' there. 19:43 <@gmaxwell> like shared truth instead of imposed truth. 19:44 < OxADADA> gmaxwell: thats my interpretation. the "central" truth is the shared truth. 19:45 < CodeShark> according to ancestry.com, it actually means "central origin" - http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=nakamoto 19:45 < CodeShark> but meh...I do not speak japanese and lack sufficient cultural context to weigh in 19:46 < CodeShark> I thought that "moto" means "essence of" or something along those lines 19:46 < OxADADA> CodeShark: yes, and no. Its 2 ideograms. Naka means central,median,middle, and "Moto" has more meanings including, "Truth, true, the source, the origin" 19:48 < OxADADA> CodeShark: the company that invented MSG (the food flavoring agent) is calledd "Aji-no-Moto" which means "Flavor's'Origin" so in that sense, the "moto" part means "Origin" 19:49 < OxADADA> CodeShark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajinomoto#Monosodium_glutamate 19:51 < CodeShark> "moto" is very common in japanese names...my understanding (admittedly not such a great one) is that it typically suggests the essence of what is being referred to - but I see other translations, such as "the cause" or "the basis" or "the foundation" 19:51 < CodeShark> presumably it doesn't map cleanly onto an indo-european root :p 19:52 < OxADADA> CodeShark: i'm not arguing that. I agree. Naka=Central Moto=Origin,Truth,Book,Source,etc. Central Origin means quite a lot difference that Decentralized non-authority. 19:53 * OxADADA states my point 19:53 * OxADADA shrugs 19:54 <@gmaxwell> well the blockchain is a central ledger (book) that gives an authortative ordering of transactions. 19:54 < CodeShark> central source or central origin doesn't have to imply control. moreover, the concept of authority has lot of subtlety 19:55 < OxADADA> gmaxwell: yes, its a centralized ledger that is decentralized in storate and verification :P 19:55 < OxADADA> s/storate/storage 19:56 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@176.106.227.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:57 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@176.106.227.34] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:58 -!- PRab [~chatzilla@2601:40a:8000:8f9b:bd13:f19b:c988:ff92] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:59 < OxADADA> neways, just stating an observation-connection i hoped others would find fun if they couldn't see past he Japanese language barrier. 19:59 < CodeShark> it's 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