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01:50 < nsh> CLTV?
01:50 < nsh> oh, checklocktimeverify
01:50 < nsh> (re: https://github.com/TierNolan/bips/blob/cpkv/bip-cprkv.mediawiki )
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08:28 < JackH> bip68 merged
08:28 < JackH> !!!!!!!
08:28 < gribble> Error: "!!!!!!" is not a valid command.
08:29 < JackH> lol
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08:39 < maaku> policy-only
08:40 < wumpus> well it's a first step
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08:54 < maaku> just clarifying for people who haven't been following so closely
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13:40 < tromp> http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/02/12/chinas-role-in-bitcoin-how-cultural-differences-are-affecting-the-technologys-progress
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13:56 < r0ach> "But Lee says about these questions of decentralization versus scale, “this kind of stuff, the Chinese people don’t care about. It’s not in the vocabulary. Chinese people don’t grow up thinking about democracy and decentralization and individual freedom and liberty.”"
13:56 < r0ach> ahahahahaha
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14:31 < maaku> r0ach: what's funny?
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14:46 < tromp> his quote from the forbes article
14:50 < r0ach> it is the way the concept of face in China means it's ok to screw over anyone for personal gain except immediate family members, so you have a constant state of art of war vs everyone with deceit everywhere, then occasionally something is said with more honesty than the west
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15:37 < maaku> r0ach: cultural and historical differences. maybe it just shouldn't be surprising that some parts of the world don't treat democracy as an applause light?
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18:33 < Luke-Jr> maaku: +1 for non-demoncracy, but lying is a problem
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20:03 < MRL-Relay> [shen] So I guess this attack I posted yesterday was "debunked" https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ShenNoether/Deanon/master/sdcDeAnon.txt
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20:06 < MRL-Relay> [shen] \end{sarcasm}
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20:14 < dEBRUYNE> nice one shen :)
20:15 < MRL-Relay> [shen] thx - I wasn't going to go through the trouble of actually doing it, but since they were like, oh it's just a troll, no bounty
20:15 < MRL-Relay> [shen] ...
20:18 < dEBRUYNE> I am wondering if they will pay out the bounty to you
20:19 < pigeons> debunking reality is a bad sign
20:20 < MRL-Relay> [shen] dEBRUYNE, we shall see, but based on their initial reaction, I would say no - also there are no reputations who would care behind the project, so no one to lose face by not paying out
20:20 < dEBRUYNE> Yeah fair point
20:21 < dEBRUYNE> alts are easily replaced as well
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20:28 < CrazyTruthYakDDS> SDC in general has a very annoying group of users/owners
20:28 < CrazyTruthYakDDS> i have watched them languish for over a year
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21:10 < brg444> https://21.co/learn/21-lib-channels/#the-21-payment-channels-client-library
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23:21 < Taek> I realized an important advantage to 'edge' mining, or 'transaction' mining, and I'm not sure that it's been vocalized before. I didn't grok it until today
23:21 < Taek> In today's mining environment, we don't get to choose who does the mining
23:22 < Taek> miners can be selective about transactions
23:22 < Taek> but, if there is mining happening at the transaction level, the person writing the transaction can pay a specialist to do the mining
23:22 < Taek> and, if their transaction is 'undesirable' for whatever reason, would normally be ignored, they can pay a premium to a miner who is not selective
23:23 < Taek> because transaction-writers are now choosing who they pay to do the mining, decentralization is improved
23:23 < Taek> in particular, you gain a trust-agility that doesn't exist in the current Bitcoin system
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