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Does anyone have 40 character or less silly musings they want me to embed into the Bitcoin blockchain? 02:40 -!- Starduster [~SD@unaffiliated/starduster] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [+o phantomcircuit] by ChanServ 02:41 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:41 < nsh> this is not really the place to solicit such things, SillyMusings 02:41 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [+b *!*@185.41.141.*] by phantomcircuit 02:41 -!- nsh was kicked from #bitcoin-wizards by phantomcircuit [no] 02:41 -!- Starduster [~SD@unaffiliated/starduster] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:41 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [-o phantomcircuit] by ChanServ 02:41 < phantomcircuit> er 02:41 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41 -!- Starduster [~SD@unaffiliated/starduster] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41 < phantomcircuit> derp 02:42 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:42 < nsh> oops :) 02:42 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [+o phantomcircuit] by ChanServ 02:42 -!- SillyMusings was kicked from #bitcoin-wizards by phantomcircuit [no] 02:42 < nsh> (ty) 02:42 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [-o phantomcircuit] by ChanServ 02:42 -!- Starduster [~SD@unaffiliated/starduster] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:43 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:48 -!- melvster [~melvster@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:54 -!- Starduster [~SD@unaffiliated/starduster] has quit [] 02:56 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@ip4-83-240-64-102.cust.nbox.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:56 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@ip4-83-240-64-102.cust.nbox.cz] has quit [Changing host] 02:56 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:04 -!- Erik_dc [~erik@ip-83-101-56-193.customer.schedom-europe.net] has quit [Remote host closed 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everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:47 -!- phiche [~Adium@2.71.108.33.mobile.tre.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:47 < oldbrew> so much for luck 04:48 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:04 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:06 -!- tr0nk [~tr0nk@c-73-17-239-115.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:06 -!- zooko [~user@2601:281:8001:26aa:d66:2791:d32c:e76b] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:07 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:09 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 05:12 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:15 -!- Tiraspol [~Tiraspol3@unaffiliated/tiraspol] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:16 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:16 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:17 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 05:17 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:19 < bsm1175321> fluffypony: I don't really see the point in having a different PoW for p2p connections than the main mining algo. It should be the same. But one thing I plan to do is demonstrate a similar idea where p2p connections provide proof of *storage* of a portion of the UTXO set, in a scenario when the UTXO set is sharded. I'm interested to see what petertodd is going to say about this later today at MIT... 05:20 < fluffypony> bsm1175321: our mining algo is crappy - it closes the performance gap between CPUs, GPUs, and ASICs, which is great, but then verifies like a dog 05:20 < bsm1175321> Which coin are you talking about? 05:20 < fluffypony> which means it's open to a DoS-style attack where an attacker chews up a node's resources 05:20 < fluffypony> bsm1175321: Monero 05:21 < bsm1175321> Didn't know that... 05:21 < fluffypony> so on the one hand Cuckoo Cycle is really exciting, on the other hand changing PoW is a Pretty Big Deal (tm) 05:21 < fluffypony> hence the on-connect PoW as a testbed 05:21 < bsm1175321> Gotcha, interesting idea. 05:21 < nsh> i think PoW verification needs to be pretty comparatively cheap for healthy consensus, but i can't recall the arguments exactly 05:21 < nsh> will be in the logs for here somewhere 05:22 < fluffypony> nsh: that's what we were talking about yesterday as well - the cheap verification, expensive-to-compute thing 05:22 < bsm1175321> fluffypony: It will delay initial connect though. Not sure what the big-picture impact of that will be. 05:22 < fluffypony> bsm1175321: by a second, maybe 2, when you only need 1 "real" connection to sync up it's not that bad 05:23 * nsh nods 05:24 < bsm1175321> Presumably the PoW target will be raised for spam protection. So it's pretty trivial to tie up a lot of nodes doing connect-PoW and drive up the connect time. 05:25 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:26 < fluffypony> bsm1175321: if my node is connecting to bad nodes that reject the connection I'm doing a bit of extra work on-connect, but I'm grey-listing them because they rejected my legitimately solved PoW. on the other hand, if bad nodes are connecting to me they'd have to overpower my rejections, as I'm going to reject their PoW failures. If they're just trying to connection-flood my node they can do that whether the PoW challenge is there 05:26 < fluffypony> or not (although the challenge makes it much harder) 05:26 < bsm1175321> The proof-of-storage I've been thinking of is just a lookup, so O(1) on connect. 05:27 < bsm1175321> fluffypony: There's probably a way to design your way out of my criticism there. 05:27 < fluffypony> yes - we just pile on the complexity till it works, Ethereum style 05:27 < fluffypony> :-P 05:29 < bsm1175321> Ha! 05:30 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:30 < bsm1175321> Speaking of complexity... 05:30 * bsm1175321 glares at his still-unfinished braids paper... 05:30 -!- CrazyTruthYakDDS [uid67551@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njoghfjbigattctw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:37 -!- nivah [~linker@115.79.55.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:41 < bsm1175321> The last thing I need for that is a mechanism to limit the complexity of the rewards algorithm, and the size of a cohort (analog of a block). The reward algorithm scales as the number of beads in a cohort (aka transactions in a block). You can use the structure of the graph to explicitly punish block withholding, but if you have to look at 3 beads simultaneously to decide reward, you're talking about an O(n^3) a 05:42 < bsm1175321> e.g. my initial O(n^3) algorithm looks at one bead in the past, one in the future, to decide a third bead's reward, so is O(n^3). 05:43 < nsh> (you should use an irc client that knows when to split long lines ;) 05:43 < nsh> (clipped at 'about an O(n^3) a'[lgorithm] 05:43 < nsh> ) 05:45 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:46 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@56-197-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:48 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:48 < bsm1175321> Yeah I know. :-( 05:49 < bsm1175321> That's not so bad if n is small. So I have to keep n small, or use a simpler reward algorithm. 05:50 < nsh> smaller cohorts means more frequent ordering events, presumably? 05:50 < nsh> ('blocks') 05:51 < zooko> nsh: I'm choosing PoW alg for Zcash, and it's really hard to decide between cheap verification vs. GPU-resistance, so I'd be interested in this argument that cheap verification is important for consensus. 05:51 < nsh> if someone has all the logs in an archive i'll do some grepping for the discussion i-seem-to-recall 05:51 < zooko> Thanks. 05:51 < nsh> or perhaps kanzure-AI already generated indices or something magical 05:53 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:56 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:56 -!- warbrain [~pottsy@203-213-120-51.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:59 -!- pottsy [~pottsy@203-213-120-51.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:05 -!- oneeman [~oneeman@ip48-68-15-186.ct.co.cr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:06 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:16 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:17 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:24 -!- oneeman [~oneeman@ip48-68-15-186.ct.co.cr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:29 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:36 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@56-197-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:39 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:44 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:45 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:46 -!- everyBlo_ [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:46 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46 -!- everyBlo_ [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:47 -!- phiche [~Adium@2.71.108.33.mobile.tre.se] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:51 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:51 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:59 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 07:16 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:19 < maaku> zooko: I'm not sure GPU-resistance is a good thing 07:19 < maaku> GPU acceleration prevents mining from being dominated by botnets 07:21 < belcher> is botnet domination actually bad for bitcoin? as long as no botnet is >50%, i suppose you could argue on a PR/social level 07:22 < maaku> belcher: s/botnet/asic pool/ and that argument says bitcoin is doing just fine 07:22 < maaku> historically bitcoin mining was dominated by 1-2 botnets 07:23 < belcher> right i see, botnets are hard to get so the barrier to entry is high 07:24 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:28 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:31 -!- Tiraspol [~Tiraspol3@unaffiliated/tiraspol] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:32 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:36 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:37 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:44 < kanzure> https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html 07:46 -!- oldbrew [~chatzilla@24-212-254-57.cable.teksavvy.com] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 07:47 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:49 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:50 -!- p15x [~p15x@162.91.145.64.unassigned.bringover.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52 -!- everyBloc [~everybloc@c-73-158-140-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:56 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:57 -!- jeremyrubin [~jeremyrub@biohazard-cafe.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:58 -!- nivah [~linker@171.232.61.61] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:00 -!- bsm117532 [~AndChat70@64.94.31.206] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:00 < bsm117532> IOW, ipv6 is a poorly managed hard fork. 08:00 < bsm117532> MX records were a soft fork. 08:02 < bsm117532> zooko: rather than agonizing about PoW algorithms, I think it's more important that mining can't be outsourced, than to select a CPU/GPU/ASIC friendly/hostile algorithm. 08:03 -!- zooko [~user@2601:281:8001:26aa:d66:2791:d32c:e76b] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:03 < bsm117532> e.g. require individual transactions to be mined in such a way that the coin holder's signature covers the PoW proof. 08:04 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:b8e2:1c9c:fe32:8ba2] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:04 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06 < bsm117532> nsh: there are no "ordering events" because only double spends define forks. Miners don't allocate their own rewards, it is calculated by analyzing the structure of the braid, after enough time has passed that all transactions have been propagated to all nodes. 08:07 -!- neha [~narula@mint-square.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:08 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:08 < nsh> whatever your equivalent of a block is, i promise you that it's an ordering even t:) 08:08 < nsh> *event 08:12 < bsm117532> Why? Maybe we're talking about different things. Beads *within* a cohort are partial ordered. Successive cohorts define a total order. 08:15 -!- bit2017 [~linker@171.232.61.61] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:15 < bsm117532> In fact that's one definition of a cohort. (A set of total-orderable beads, WRT a previous such set) 08:16 < nsh> right 08:16 < nsh> so each cohort is an ordering event 08:16 -!- nivah [~linker@171.232.61.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:16 < nsh> just as each block in an ordering event of transactions in bitcoin 08:16 < bsm117532> Basically, yes. 08:16 < nsh> which gives the network a sense of distributed proper time 08:17 < bsm117532> Yes 08:17 < nsh> without which the reduced BGP cannot be solved 08:17 < nsh> afaict 08:17 < bsm117532> What's the reduced bgp? 08:17 < nsh> byzantine general's problem 08:17 < nsh> that bitcoin solves by cheating a bit and introducing economics 08:18 < bsm117532> Oh of course 08:18 < bsm117532> I was thinking border gateway protocol... 08:19 < bsm117532> nsh: so now I understand your previous comment: "smaller cohorts mean more frequent ordering events" 08:20 < nsh> \o/ 08:20 < nsh> now i just need to understand it myself 08:20 < bsm117532> Since a cohort *is* the total ordering event, the answer is yes, if you fix other parameters. 08:20 < nsh> :) 08:21 < bsm117532> e.g. fixed target difficulty. 08:21 < nsh> so i wonder if oyu can allow this to vary without making the retargetting function too complex and vulnerable to e.g. oscillations 08:21 < bsm117532> The number of beads doesn't make reference to time at all, so "more frequent" (in time) requires additional assumptions. 08:22 < bsm117532> Yes, I am letting the target difficulty vary. 08:22 < nsh> so that if the cost of verification becomes too high due ot the N^3 growth then you can have more frequent cohorts, or consolidate more transactions when validation load is less of a pressure 08:22 * nsh nods 08:24 < bsm117532> If target difficulty is allowed in some range, then cohort size is decided by the lower bound. 08:24 < bsm117532> However, cohorts can also be made larger by a withholding attack. 08:25 -!- voxelot [~voxelot@2605:e000:1525:802f:2f31:fc98:c9b5:8658] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:25 < 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So far I've thought of doing something like this: you force a fixed offset for the R value in the signature and have two signatures on the stack. Then assert that both R values are equal. If both sigs are for the same inputs 12:18 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 12:18 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:20 -!- melvster [~melvster@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:23 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has quit [Client Quit] 12:25 -!- notj [~notj@dhcp-18-189-67-198.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:25 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:37 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-108-145.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:50 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-108-145.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:51 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/mit-bitcoin-expo-2016/fraud-proofs-petertodd 12:51 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/mit-bitcoin-expo-2016/lessons-for-bitcoin-from-150-years-of-decentralization/ 13:04 -!- notj [~notj@dhcp-18-189-67-198.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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OxADADA> those transcripts are great 15:05 < OxADADA> the one on Sia has a major copy-paste problem though 15:06 < OxADADA> the transcript it doubled or tripeled. 15:10 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@56-197-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:10 -!- melvster [~melvster@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:13 -!- OP_PUSH20x00000 [~matthew@c-24-30-124-107.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:19 -!- phiche [~Adium@2.71.108.33.mobile.tre.se] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:20 < nsh> OxADADA, you can edit on github and submit a pull request :) https://github.com/kanzure/diyhpluswiki/blob/master/transcripts/mit-bitcoin-expo-2016/ 15:21 < OxADADA> nsh: awesome, thx 15:21 -!- phiche1 [~Adium@185.97.214.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:23 -!- melvster [~melvster@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:32 -!- voxelot [~voxelot@2605:e000:1525:802f:2f31:fc98:c9b5:8658] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 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