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07:21 < kanzure> fluffypony: afaik nobody publishes peer review
07:21 < kanzure> not sure why you expect this?
07:22 < fluffypony> kanzure: we're talking about reviews of the more nonsensical altcoin papers, as a way to educate end-users as to how broken the systems are, and how invalid the claims of the creators are
07:22 < kanzure> oh ok, you mean a review review paper
07:22 < fluffypony> yes exactly
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07:50 < fluffypony> http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.01383
07:50 < fluffypony> .title
07:50 < yoleaux> [1604.01383] Quantum Bitcoin: An Anonymous and Distributed Currency Secured by the No-Cloning Theorem of Quantum Mechanics
07:51 < fluffypony> that's way above my mental paygrade
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08:03 < bsm117532> "overlay" journals are becoming popular, and one aspect of them is public review comments.  This would be a good thing for the bitcoin space, and hopefully shut down some ill conceived crowdsales before people lost money.
08:05 < bsm117532> http://www.nature.com/news/leading-mathematician-launches-arxiv-overlay-journal-1.18351
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10:09 < CryptoAi> We’re currently looking for java developers with experience in algorithmic trading. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jt7VKAI6_jU-yaMJX2A7Bj8JpLN0hhgfmrMrmy1PUHs/edit?usp=sharing
10:12 < nsh> may god have mercy on your soul
10:14 < kanzure> stop spamming. this is the nth day in a row...
10:14 < kanzure> oh maybe not in a row. still, the point stands.
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10:33 < kanzure> "2016 is the 25th anniversary of arXiv, an important milestone.  We are engaged in a series of vision-setting activities<https://confluence.cornell.edu/display/culpublic/arXiv+Review+Strategy> and, as part of this process, we are implementing a user survey to help us improve arXiv and clarify future directions for the service in a way that best serves the user community: https://cornell.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_brM4ULfjHGClNJj "
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10:44 < bsm117532> I want to see a systematic referee/rating layer added to the arXiv...
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10:47 < nsh> *semantic ontology layer added to the *web
10:47 < nsh> (just scoping your problem difficulty class :)
10:47 < kanzure> strange that arxiv didn't ask questions like "what percent of reading material do you gather from arxiv?" or other use-metrics
10:48 < kanzure> i expect they would find that they have a significant percentage of most reading hours for some fields
10:48 < kanzure> >5% at least
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10:49 < kanzure> my recommendations to them were things like, make older papers more accessible from their homepage (they only show the past ~week of uploads), and re-enable their torrents for archival/backup/mirroring/copying.
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10:50 < bsm117532> More than the last week is hundreds of papers for many fields -- too much to sift through.
10:51 < kanzure> nonsense. have you tried? :)
10:51 < bsm117532> for decades, yes.  ;-)
10:51 < kanzure> also: your personal failure to keep up should not be a reason to limit my ability to receive fucking indexes
10:51 < bsm117532> 137 papers http://arxiv.org/list/hep-ph/recent
10:52 < bsm117532> Just sign up for the mailings!  ;-)
10:52 < kanzure> i really don't understand their user interface
10:52 < kanzure> why are they only showing 137?
10:52 < bsm117532> Because that's how many were submitted in the last week.
10:52 < bsm117532> It's also 1/alpha_EM.  ;-)
10:52 < kanzure> but.... what about the prior week's content?
10:53 < waxwing> bsm117532: in this universe :)
10:53 < kanzure> your email suggestion is good but it still breaks for older content
10:54 < bsm117532> waxwing: There's only one universe.  ;-)
10:54 < kanzure> an older paper might dispute that, but you wouldn't know because it's hidden from you
10:55 < bsm117532> kanzure: most of us use secondary indices, not the arxiv itself for searching.  For instance http://adswww.harvard.edu/ and http://inspirehep.net/ that index arxiv content.
10:55 < kanzure> what really
10:55 < kanzure> does inspirehep only index the hep-related arxiv content?
10:55 < bsm117532> Lots of people I know read the arxiv on inspire
10:57 < kanzure> this is a cool page- http://inspirehep.net/info/hep/reviews
10:58 < kanzure> hrm neither of the two links you gave me seem to index the non-physics arxiv content?
10:59 < bsm117532> True.
10:59 < bsm117532> There's got to be a CS one somewhere.
11:00 < kanzure> maybe the computer science folks are unaware of arxiv's refusal to provide access to older content
11:00 < kanzure> s/provide access/provide navigation
11:00 < kanzure> compsci folks probably assume arxiv does it already
11:02 < bsm117532> http://dl.acm.org/ http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/ http://www.computingreviews.com/
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11:03 < bsm117532> Of course for us I think there are only two relevant sites.  Arxiv and https://eprint.iacr.org/
11:03 < kanzure> i read much more broadly than that :) https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
11:03 < kanzure> ( https://github.com/zotero/translators )
11:04 < bsm117532> I know you do.  I've nicknamed you the Bitcoin Librarian.  ;-)
11:04 < kanzure> *high energy bitcoin collider
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13:34 < midnightmagic> +1 zotero, seriously.
13:35 < kanzure> i haven't used the browser extension in years.... just their translation-server. sorta cheating i guess.
13:35 < midnightmagic> i use the standalone, it has nice indexing/export/citation features so I don't have to do it all manually.
13:36 < midnightmagic> also unfortunately, a number of sites simply don't and don't ever seem to have, work(ed) with their zotero translators.
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13:37 < midnightmagic> where does this paperbot live, and can you export everything it knows in a way that zotero users can import the library?
13:38 < kanzure> paperbot is currently offline but it was in ##hplusroadmap for a few years
13:38 < kanzure> e.g. see http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-04-12.log
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17:01 < bsm1175321> I love Zotero too.  But so far the Bitcoin literature is small enough that I keep it in my head.  I have an extensive physics database though...
17:02 < bsm1175321> Well 12x75 hours in to my final simulation for the braids paper and I think I need to kill it...because...halting problem.  :-(
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20:00 < fluffypony> bsm1175321: so you're saying you had to...halt it?
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23:50 < Taek> fluffypony: we could start a blog where we shred one paper per week, 3-4 reviewers take turns so nobody has too much work.
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23:52 < Taek> Actually that has gotten me in some trouble. An unfavorable review of Augur has landed me on the bad side of Jeremy Gardner, who apparently has some clout with Valley VCs
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