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10:11 < heretolearn> is there any way to have access control over rpc for some commands for certain users
10:12 < bsm117532> Wrong channel, try #bitcoin.  But you could put a proxy in front of it.
10:13 < heretolearn> @bsm117532 proxy will help how with access differentiation ? dont get it
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13:10 < kanzure> "Hijacking Bitcoin: Large-scale Network Attacks on Cryptocurrencies" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.07524v1.pdf
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13:24 < kanzure> "Efficient zero knowledge contingent payments in cryptocurrencies without scripts" http://eprint.iacr.org/2016/451.pdf
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13:32 < kanzure> i am not sure why they are concerned about the zkcp refund transaction on top of page 4. wouldn't a different refund transaction be signed if a mutated transaction entered the chain?
13:35 < kanzure> if their assumption is that refund transactions cannot be recreated then i guess they should state that assumption (it's certainly annoying to have to create new refund transactions, sure)
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14:12 < nsh> so i already tried this with infosec and it failed because of insufficient interest [largely on the part of me], but -wizards should probably do a monthly paper review discussion
14:12 < nsh> or more often if people can be bothered
14:12 < nsh> hangouts works pretty well for it
14:13 < bsm117532> I'm in.
14:16 < nsh> cool
14:17 < bsm117532> I'm sure kanzure would be too.
14:18  * bsm117532 busies himself porting braids to javascript, and C++.
14:18 < bsm117532> Maybe I should finish the draft too...
14:19 < bsm117532> I'm beginning to think *every* coin should adopt this, even with a fixed block time, because it kills the selfish mining attack.
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15:01 < kanzure> ugh hangouts... do we have to?
15:02 < kanzure> can't we just coerce bsm117532 to stop doing in-person paper reviews in nyc
15:05  * nsh smiles
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17:26 < bsm117532> Can't we just convince you guys to attend!  ;-)
17:27 < othe> sure, gimme a beer and i annoy u weekly form july on -.-
17:28 < bsm117532> We provide free beer and pizza!  ;-)
17:28 < bsm117532> Though, you might be asked to present a paper.  ;-)
17:28 < othe> yeah actually ivan already asked me.
17:29 < bsm117532> It's the price of being a -wizard...
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17:54 < bsm117532> So I've had a few conversations here with people about p2pool and why it's not used more widely.  I just started mining Ethereum this weekend for shits & giggles.  The pool I'm on is very clearly inflating my share numbers.  If this is common practice, anyone moving from a centralized pool to p2pool would see an "apparent" drop in hashrate.
17:57 < bsm117532> Also, I'm pretty disappointed at the appearance of (and success of) pools on Ethereum.  5760 blocks/day isn't enough to prevent centralization, it seems.  It's hashrate is currently equivalent to each miner with a high-end video card earning one block (5 ether) per month.  Equivalently, 173,000 contributors with high-end cards, roughly.
17:59 < bsm117532> My calculations with braids indicate that there is not more than a factor of 10 relative to Ethereum that can be eeked out of a Nakamoto-style consensus algorithm, due to the latency inherent in the size of the Earth, and network topology.
17:59 < bsm117532> By a factor 10 I mean in the number of rewards per day.  Regardless of the reward, this is the variance indicator for a small miner.
18:00 < bsm117532> If I don't get a reward in a day/week/month, I'm not going to bother, as an individual.
18:01 < mappum> bsm117532: where can i read about braids?
18:03 < bsm117532> mappum: Work in progress, but I've uploaded some code here: https://github.com/mcelrath/braidcoin
18:03 < bsm117532> paper will appear "soon" (TM).
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18:10 < bsm117532> Ethereum needs to put out the word, in a very strong way, to not use pools for miners with multiple video cards involved.  Their fantasy that PoS is a thing that exists and they can switch to is damaging the security of their network.
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18:13 < luke-jr> bsm117532: this isn't ##altcoin-dev
18:14 < bsm117532> luke-jr: That's a nice constructive comment you've got there.
18:17 < luke-jr> would you prefer I just kick you?
18:18 < bsm117532> luke-jr: Go ahead. I'm very clearly discussing -wizard material.  Your anti-ether stance is not useful.
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