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joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:44 -!- Burrito [~Burrito@unaffiliated/burrito] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:46 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b5e.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:56 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-177.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:58 -!- mdavid613 [~Adium@cpe-104-172-191-85.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:01 -!- mdavid613 [~Adium@cpe-104-172-191-85.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:03 -!- ManfredMacx [~hyperion@93-136-89-62.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:05 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:08 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@124.213-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:12 < kanzure> "No place to hide: Contactless probing of secret data on FPGAs" http://eprint.iacr.org/2016/593.pdf 10:14 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:19 -!- MaxSan_ [~one@185.103.96.151] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:29 -!- zooko [~user@c-67-160-201-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:32 -!- ManfredMacx [~hyperion@93-136-89-62.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:33 < nsh> how much could you steal by mounting a privkey extraction attack on a bitcoin mining facility? 10:33 < nsh> cheaper/easier to break in physically i suppose in most places 10:35 < NewLiberty> @jonasschnelli Was implementing compression along with encryption in BIP151 considered? 10:37 -!- b-itcoinssg [uid41629@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjvxymlcasrwhrop] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:38 -!- gielbier [~giel____@095-096-096-058.static.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:38 -!- gielbier [~giel____@095-096-096-058.static.chello.nl] has quit [Changing host] 10:38 -!- gielbier [~giel____@unaffiliated/gielbier] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:39 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@unaffiliated/debruyne] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:41 -!- zooko [~user@c-67-160-201-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:44 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:46 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:52 < maaku> NewLiberty: p2p protocol isn't very compressable 10:53 < sipa> some 20%-40% max 10:53 < sipa> depending on how resource intensive you want to go 10:54 < maaku> also that's basically what compactblocks is -- compressing the block messages 10:54 < maaku> there's probably some similar work that could be done for tx relay, if there is every demand 10:54 < sipa> it's hashes all the way down 10:55 < instagibbs> just figure out how to compute preimages fast. Easy! 10:56 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:56 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:59 -!- MaxSan_ [~one@185.103.96.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:01 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:02 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:06 < jonasschnelli> NewLiberty: During the BIP151 disussions, compression was never mentioned for the reason sipa mentioned (it's not worth IMO). 11:09 -!- blackwraith [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:09 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:10 < sipa> if useful, it can always be added later 11:13 -!- MaxSan_ [~one@185.103.96.139] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:41 -!- atgreen [~green@CPE687f74122463-CM00fc8d24cab0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:56 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:58 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:58 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:02 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:02 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:03 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:11 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b5e.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b5e.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:18 -!- Starduster [~SD@unaffiliated/starduster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:25 -!- nanasho [~nanasha25@ipbcc12eb9.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:33 < maaku> if segwit took a per-input nonce, there could be higher level protocols for doing things like proof of stake with delegated keys without revealing the spend keys 12:33 < maaku> at the cost of 32 witness bytes per input 12:36 -!- Aranjedeath [~Aranjedea@unaffiliated/aranjedeath] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:42 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-177.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:51 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b5e.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:53 < nanasho> So, CSV needed 95% correct? I assume then it is locked in 13:00 < maaku> nanasho: BIP 9 only activates on retargetting periods 13:00 < maaku> *on retarget blocks 13:01 < maaku> so not yet... but soon 13:01 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:03 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-95-154-155.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:03 -!- roidster is now known as Guest49457 13:03 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-177.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:04 -!- Guest49457 is now known as roidster 13:18 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:22 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:24 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:29 -!- jiggalator 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