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Nearly all closed down afterward. Each root cause is below, with a link to more information in the breach." 04:04 < waxwing> s/all other causes/insider theft/g 04:05 < fluffypony> :-P 04:05 < waxwing> well, i forgot the FBI though :) 04:06 < katu_> there are less publicized (albeit well documenented, if you dig forums/reddit deep enough). from top of my head, bitcoin-24 and poloniex 04:07 < fluffypony> katu_: they accept PRs 04:08 * katu_ is not the journalist type, just rumor mongering :D 04:24 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:bdcf:3134:3cac:6e77] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:25 -!- jtimon [~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:25 -!- Tiraspol [~Tiraspol3@unaffiliated/tiraspol] has quit [] 04:26 -!- ruby32 [~ruby32@184.207.10.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:28 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@14.186.114.244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:28 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:bdcf:3134:3cac:6e77] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:40 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AusteritySucks [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:42 -!- Giszmo [~leo@112.red-79-153-18.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:45 -!- se3000 [~textual@38.125.163.25] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:46 < nicolagreco> I just went through petertodd slides: https://scalingbitcoin.org/hongkong2015/presentations/DAY1/2_security_and_incentives_2_todd.pdf, this is very close to the idea of blockDAG, has there been any other work in that direction? 07:47 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:49 -!- AusteritySucks [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:52 < kanzure> nicolagreco: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/in-adversarial-environments-blockchains-dont-scale/ 07:53 < kanzure> nicolagreco: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/braiding-the-blockchain/ 07:57 < nicolagreco> thanks kanzure 08:01 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:3024:37a2:2847:6796] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:04 < bsm117532> kanzure: There aren't enough words on those slides for me to divine what he was thinking. But slide 11 makes me think he's thinking about sharding, not a block-dag. 08:04 -!- AusteritySucks [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:05 < bsm117532> FWIW I do want to build a testnet which shards the UTXO set, and passes around proofs of inclusion/exclusion (using a UTXO set commitment). e.g. a transaction can only be committed when accompanied by proof that each of its inputs is unspent. 08:05 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:3024:37a2:2847:6796] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:07 < bsm117532> This is what I think petertodd is thinking, and his complaint is that the size of the proofs is log(n) where n=utxo set size, per input. So you have to gather quite a bit of extra data for each transaction to prove it's valid. Nonetheless I want to build it and run some tests to see how practical it is. 08:08 -!- Pr0t3us [~Pr0t3us@unaffiliated/pr0t3us] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:08 -!- Pr0t3us [~Pr0t3us@unaffiliated/pr0t3us] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 < bsm117532> We're bouncing around ideas over here re: how to make UTXO set inclusion/exclusion proofs smaller, and validating faster. I met peter_r last night in person and we talked quite a bit about it. He wants UTXO set proofs for faster initial new-node sync. 08:23 -!- c0rw1n- [~c0rw1n@116.47-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:25 < nicolagreco> is there any follow up on the braiding the chain idea? 08:25 -!- c0rw1n- [~c0rw1n@116.47-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:26 -!- domwoe [~domwoe@50.245.35.84] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:26 < bsm117532> nicolagreco: code is here: https://github.com/mcelrath/braidcoin, right now I'm trying to work out a set of consensus rules that allow for regular, reliable forking and *merging*. Once I have that figured out, I'll (finally) publish it. 08:27 < nicolagreco> oh the speaker of braiding the chain is you bsm117532 ? 08:28 < bsm117532> Yes. 08:28 < nicolagreco> oh bsm117532 great, this is funny 08:29 -!- c0rw1n- [~c0rw1n@116.47-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Client Quit] 08:29 < bsm117532> Why so funny? ;-) 08:29 < nicolagreco> bsm117532 I was going through the video to get the name of the speaker 08:29 < nicolagreco> and send an email about some questions/intuitions 08:29 < nicolagreco> and as soon as I saw your nickname they matched 08:31 -!- c0rw1n- [~c0rw1n@116.47-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:32 < nicolagreco> about a month ago, I had a very similar intuition (but did not work out the math of how you can prevent a graph to grow widely rather than narrowly) 08:32 < nicolagreco> the intuition is that we don't need the total ordering of blocks 08:33 < nicolagreco> instead partial(causal) ordering would be enough 08:33 < nicolagreco> and this would allow us to avoid throwing out the non-conflicting forks 08:34 < nicolagreco> I am happy to discuss this further some time soon 08:37 -!- pro [~pro@unaffiliated/pro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:43 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:43 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:43 -!- tromp_ [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:44 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:44 -!- huseby [~huseby@unaffiliated/huseby] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:44 -!- espes [~espes@205.185.120.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:45 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 08:46 -!- pro [~pro@unaffiliated/pro] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:47 -!- tromp_ [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50 -!- espes [~espes@205.185.120.132] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:51 -!- digitalmagus [digitalmag@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:52 -!- digitalmagus [digitalmag@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:55 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@78-23-10-185.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:59 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@78-23-10-185.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:02 < bsm117532> nicolagreco: Cool. I have to run out of the office for a little while right now, but feel free to post your thoughts here or mail me. 09:03 < bsm117532> nicolagreco: By default you only have a partial ordering. I created the notion of a "cohort" which gives a total ordering based on graph structure alone. But if a braid is too "thick", no total order emerges. This is when beads are being created so fast that there are always some in flight. 09:04 -!- a87ry5 [~a87ry5@cpe-66-108-174-124.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:04 < bsm117532> In that "thick braid" regime, conflict resolution by which-came-first is not possible. You need the total order. 09:07 -!- GreenIsMyPepper [~GreenIsMy@209.141.33.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:08 -!- espes [~espes@205.185.120.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:09 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@14.186.114.244] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:12 -!- a87ry5 [~a87ry5@cpe-66-108-174-124.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [] 09:17 -!- GreenIsMyPepper [~GreenIsMy@2605:6400:20:11aa:189e:28a5:52ed:8948] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:24 -!- digitalmagus [digitalmag@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24 -!- digitalmagus [digitalmag@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:34 -!- BTCking [~wowperson@c-67-183-151-251.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:34 < BTCking> AMAZING! My bitcoin-grower is now ready. Send me some bitcoin (1btc, 2btc, etc.) and get MUCH more back INSTANTLY. This uses Block-chain explanding technology! Proven safe & secure. You cannot lose. 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bsm117532> Minimizing network validation latency is a losing game, because it can't ever be zero. The better solution is to ensure miners can mine and validate simultaneously. (And that leads directly to braids -- a block has to have multiple parents to tie together the one that I mined while I was validating) 11:27 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:28 < bsm117532> jl2012: I worry that since your commitments aren't enforced, miners could lie about them to manipulate each other and gain advantage. e.g. fill "next" with either transactions that don't exist, or ones that can't work (already mined transactions, for instance). 11:28 < bsm117532> Then we're back in the selfish mining game :-/ 11:30 -!- SireWolf [~SireWolf@host-212-159-154-244.static.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:34 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:37 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:3547:b92b:63c8:be9c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:42 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@14.186.114.244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:42 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@2a02:1812:1515:2400:3547:b92b:63c8:be9c] has 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https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-November/011707.html 12:05 < kanzure> BlueMatt: http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-wizards/2015-12-02.log 12:06 < kanzure> BlueMatt: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/011158.html 12:06 < kanzure> BlueMatt: https://people.xiph.org/~greg/weakblocks.txt 12:07 < kanzure> BlueMatt: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin/weak-blocks-links.2016-05-09.txt 12:07 < BlueMatt> lol, okkkkk 12:07 < kanzure> sorry for the delay i guess :P 12:22 -!- SireWolf [~SireWolf@227.190.198.146.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:22 -!- AusteritySucks [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:22 -!- SireWolf [~SireWolf@host-212-159-154-244.static.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:24 -!- SireWolf [~SireWolf@host-212-159-154-244.static.as13285.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:24 -!- SireWolf [~SireWolf@166.79.6.51.dyn.plus.net] has joined 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