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If so, any thoughts you'd like to share on it? 11:17 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 < fluffypony> I like Tim Pastoor, he's good people 11:21 < fluffypony> and Martti is a smart guy 11:21 < livegnik> Why thank you. :-) 11:21 < livegnik> You're a nice pony yourself. 11:21 < livegnik> Martti is smart enough to write more code than words. 11:21 < fluffypony> the biggest problem is that Identifi doesn't have a token to trade on Poloniex, so does it actually exist? 11:21 < livegnik> And as you all might know (by probably not knowing me), I rarely come out here to drop a question. 11:21 < fluffypony> :-P 11:22 < livegnik> You can always sell your privkey. :-) 11:22 < fluffypony> lol 11:23 < fluffypony> petertodd and I discussed (at the conference in Ei_PSI) doing identity and trust through proofs alone 11:23 < livegnik> Unfortunately, I couldn't make it that Saturday, and missed him on Sunday. 11:24 < fluffypony> I still think that there's use-cases for *some* identity data to be permanent, although I agree that most of it doesn't need to exist in any sort of global structure 11:24 < livegnik> Mostly, identity & reputation comes down to subjective logic, so why use a consensus algo that's aimed at objective logic? 11:24 < livegnik> Also, most identity & reputation requires TTPs, so what added value does the blockchain provide? 11:25 < fluffypony> exactly 11:26 < livegnik> A bunch of key-signing suffices in most cases, but Phil Zimmermann doesn't even use PGP. Hence, I'm a fan of Identifi, where the daemon does 'all the hard stuff' for you on the back-end. 11:26 <@gmaxwell> livegnik: I haven't looked at it. 11:26 < livegnik> But Sirius' PoC is only for public data. I still believe that, conceptually, the WoT principle could be used as a permission layer. 11:27 < livegnik> So, instead of flooding all the rows in the DB, you'd want to handle requests for specific cells. 11:27 < livegnik> gmaxwell: Thnx. 11:27 < livegnik> You could either set permissions on cells / rows / columns for 1st to infinite degree connections, or handle them manually. Whatever tickles your itch. 11:28 -!- STRML [~STRML@unaffiliated/strml] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 11:30 < livegnik> In case you, or anyone else, is interested, you can find it here: https://github.com/identifi/identifi 11:30 < livegnik> It's currently being ported to Node.js, but you can find the old C++ PoC (a fork of bitcoind) here: https://github.com/livegnik/identifi 11:34 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:35 < livegnik> I saw BTC Drak saying on Twitter the other day that (t)he(y)'ll be releasing tools to make it easier to verify binaries. I think Identifi could be a nice tool for this, but am curious for the opinion of better-credentialed folks. 11:36 < livegnik> ... than myself. 11:36 < livegnik> ./rant 11:36 * livegnik goes back to lurking 11:37 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 11:39 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:42 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@223.100-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:43 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@223.100-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:45 -!- epopt [~epopt@96.229.170.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:47 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@223.100-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@223.100-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:00 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15 -!- polyclef_ [~j@184-23-239-227.dedicated.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:16 -!- asynk [~aknix@65.78.54.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:20 < koshii> livegnik: Phil Z doesn't use PGP? For real? 12:21 < livegnik> I haven't had the chance to ask him myself, but this article says so: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/even-the-inventor-of-pgp-doesnt-use-pgp 12:23 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:40 -!- STRML [~STRML@unaffiliated/strml] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:03 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:06 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:07 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:07 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- lvns [~lvns@18265b78.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:11 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined 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