--- Log opened Mon Oct 10 00:00:17 2016 00:04 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:06 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@89-96-136-66.ip12.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:20 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:21 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:26 -!- droark [~droark@host191-16-static.241-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:32 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:32 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:36 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@69.167.29.173] has quit [Quit: DigiByteDev] 00:37 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:43 < kanzure> musalbas: well the first concern is probably that proof-of-publication there is not proof-of-publication 00:43 < kanzure> hence 'dumb' 00:44 -!- LeMiner [LeMiner@unaffiliated/leminer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:45 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.20] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:45 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.20] has quit [Client Quit] 00:47 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:52 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:54 -!- jnewbery [~jnewbery@212.91.77.38] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:55 * adlai elaborates on kanzure's statement - publication means making available, that spec is about proving something existed, but makes no guarantee it was "available", whatever that even means 00:55 < adlai> (to whom? in exchange for what? etc) 00:56 < adlai> availability generally devolves into "all the good ones are either taken or handicapped" 01:09 < musalbas> adlai: we had this discussion before, but as petertodd said, the thing that you might be proving to publish is merely a hash. That could be useful for example in the case of certificate transparency, where you could publish a hash of a merkle tree of certs, and you have to provide the merkle-proof with each sig, but if you don't externally supply the full tree somewhere for any auditor to see, then the world can raise a red flag that 01:09 < musalbas> you are not be transparent 01:09 < musalbas> not being* 01:10 < musalbas> in that case, the -full set- of items is important 01:10 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:14 -!- jnewbery [~jnewbery@212.91.77.38] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14 < musalbas> in that example, the merkle-proof is useful, because you a proving to the person that is accepting your certificate that you published the hash of the merkle tree containing it, which either the CA, the browser vendor, or site owners can attempt to find the full data of to audit, or else fail the audit 01:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 01:15 -!- jnewbery [~jnewbery@212.91.77.38] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:15 -!- droark [~droark@host191-16-static.241-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 01:15 < adlai> musalbas: who are you? i do not remember discussing this with you. the internet remembers me discussing it with kanzure and bsm-four-primes ( https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2016-10-04/?msg=74158233&page=2 ), and i remember "duking it out in milan" with kanzure yesterday; but never with you. 01:15 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:16 < adlai> what about proof-of-auditability, rather than claim-that-i-audited? 01:16 < musalbas> adlai, not with me specifically, but you commented on it a few days ago when i posted the w3c pop proposal here, and there was a general discussion 01:17 < adlai> ie, anybody who wants to redo the audit after the original "publisher" has died in a tragic library fire, and all his notebooks lost forever - can still audit the thing, because the data was available. 01:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:18 < adlai> yeah, please reread (ok, maybe not you-ie-musalbas, but you-the-lurker) what i linked. i think i made myself clear, but if i didn't, please ask a specific question. 01:19 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:19 < musalbas> reread what? the log you linked? 01:20 < adlai> yeah 01:20 < adlai> again, you probably did, if you're citing it. i'm providing the link for people who haven't, yet. 01:20 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@93-33-110-54.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@93-33-110-54.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:21 < adlai> i have not studied the W3C proposal enough to have technical complaints, i'm just pissed that they've redefined "publication" to mean "i had the data, so anybody could have!" 01:21 < kanzure> https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-fall2016/blob/master/topics-and-advance-readings/blockchain-extensions-for-linked-data-signatures.md 01:24 < adlai> kinda funny how the first link in a think about link is rot 01:24 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:25 < musalbas> there is actually a w3c community group that is creating a protocol for the same thing but not calling it 'proof of publication' but some proof thing www.chainpoint.org 01:26 < musalbas> well, they're calling it proof-of-existence 01:26 < kanzure> yes see http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/milan/timestamping/ 01:26 < musalbas> thanks 01:27 < musalbas> ie, anybody who wants to redo the audit after the original "publisher" has died in a tragic library fire, and all his notebooks lost forever - can still audit the thing, because the data was available. 01:28 < musalbas> that is a good point, and a limitation, but that may not be relevant limitation depending on the use case 01:28 < musalbas> in the case of CT for example, if your aim is only to "detect" rogue certs, you only need the owner of a host to check once 01:29 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:33 < musalbas> the proof-of-publication of a hash proves to the user that the certificate the user is being supplied is auditable, so that if it emerges that a i.e. CA isn't being transparent about the content of a hash, steps can be taken by a browser vendor or site owner or the CA itself if it figures it had been compromised 01:33 < musalbas> it doesn't prove that the certificate itself has been published, just that *a* certificate was 01:34 < musalbas> what certificate was published* 01:42 < musalbas> be back soon 01:42 < musalbas> (maybe the takeaway lesson from here is to never use the word 'proof-of-publication' for anything because there's too much conflicting 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