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[~nikivi@dhcp-077-250-172-150.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:41 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@113.172.140.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:44 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@109.128.248.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:45 < musalbas> this is very interesting http://cba.mit.edu/docs/theses/01.03.pappuphd.powf.pdf 08:45 < musalbas> Physical hash functions that you can use to 'hash' real-world objects 08:45 < musalbas> Allowing you to make unforgable link between physical objects and cryptographic systems 08:45 < kanzure> are these "phsically unclonable functions" 08:47 < musalbas> dunno 08:47 < musalbas> I think it's more than just making unclonable objects 08:58 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:58 < musalbas> I think the idea is that you can 'scan' an object and get a unique hash for it 08:59 < musalbas> So that if someone tries to make a copy of an object, it would have a different hash, unless it had the same molecular structure 09:00 -!- 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09:23 -!- Davasny [~quassel@78-11-193-195.static.ip.netia.com.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:30 -!- q4 [~textual@user-94-254-167-44.play-internet.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:36 -!- ZenEntropy [~Alain@184.105.243.136] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:42 < bsm1175321> That seems really really hard to get repeatable measurements for your input. There's going to be an error rate for producing a different hash. 09:44 < ansuz> inb4 .gov forces people to unlock their iphones with their physical hash 09:46 -!- funkenstein_ [~bowler@unaffiliated/funkenstein] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:47 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@dhcp-077-250-172-150.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: irc] 09:55 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@dhcp-077-250-172-150.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:17 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@104.193.169-200.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:17 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@104.193.169-200.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:17 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@dhcp-077-250-172-150.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: irc] 10:17 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@104.193.169-200.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:25 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugscqcqjdbrlsjeb] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:46 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:50 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@n218250011174.netvigator.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:52 -!- WungFu [~WungFu@unaffiliated/wungfu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:56 -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:08 < fluffypony> ansuz: so...facial recognition? :-P 11:09 < ansuz> idk 11:09 < ansuz> I just work here 11:09 < ansuz> you dev monero, yea? 11:12 < fluffypony> Yes, but that's off-topic here :) 11:16 -!- sam_ [~sam@84.126.69.179.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:17 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:17 -!- ZenEntropy [~Alain@184.105.243.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:24 -!- xissburg [~xissburg@unaffiliated/xissburg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26 -!- xissburg [~xissburg@unaffiliated/xissburg] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:28 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:28 -!- q4 [~textual@user-94-254-167-44.play-internet.pl] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: 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2016/1026 12:15 < fluffypony> it's Ring-LWE Signatures 12:15 < fluffypony> "we present a full-fledged software implementation protected against timing and cache attacks that supports two scheme variants: one providing 128 bits of classical security and another providing 128 bits of post-quantum security" 12:15 -!- q4 [~textual@user-94-254-167-44.play-internet.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:17 -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.19.164] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:23 -!- alferz [~alferz@c-174-50-153-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:23 -!- alferz [~alferz@c-174-50-153-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:23 -!- alferz [~alferz@unaffiliated/alfer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:26 -!- nabu [~nabu@192.40.88.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26 -!- nabu [~nabu@91.108.183.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:29 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:30 -!- quietbea1t 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ZZZzzz…] 21:34 -!- binaryatrocity [~quassel@unaffiliated/br4n] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:37 -!- binaryatrocity [~quassel@unaffiliated/br4n] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:42 < maaku> cjd: unlikely. blockchains don't have an army or a navy 21:58 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@37.157.216.159] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:01 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@37.157.216.159] has quit [Changing host] 22:01 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:05 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has quit [Quit: Newyorkadam] 22:05 < aj> maaku: i notice you don't deny there being a blockchain air force or space program. 22:11 -!- Alain [~Alain@184.105.243.215] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:11 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:11 -!- rhett [~rhett@c-73-223-86-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:16 -!- Alain [~Alain@184.105.243.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:23 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:34 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:fc6e:f8a3:a389:a67a] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:41 < maaku> aj: naturally 22:49 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:52 -!- juscamarena [~jus@47.148.176.74] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:53 < juscamarena> You won't need a standing army with payable killer robots for hire. :-) 23:04 -!- Alain [~Alain@184.105.243.215] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:08 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aeyyjswbshpotbut] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:08 -!- Alain [~Alain@184.105.243.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:23 -!- Alain [~Alain@184.105.243.215] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:26 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:a879:2830:f8a2:f683] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:27 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:27 -!- Alain [~Alain@184.105.243.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:41 -!- wasi [~wasi@2a02:121e:41b:0:226:c7ff:fe74:7fa6] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:42 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:a879:2830:f8a2:f683] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:47 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:9429:a343:864e:ce56] has joined #bitcoin-wizards --- Log closed Wed Nov 02 00:00:38 2016