--- Log opened Sun Nov 27 00:00:22 2016 00:07 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07 -!- blackwraith [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:14 -!- sausage_factory [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:16 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:25 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- atgreen [~green@CPE10da438ecb59-CM00fc8d24cab0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:27 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:40 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrvzuickgqvcmvjb] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:42 -!- atgreen [~green@CPE10da438ecb59-CM00fc8d24cab0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:44 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:45 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@79.98.72.176] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:45 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@79.98.72.176] has quit [Changing host] 00:45 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:46 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:58 -!- Emcy_ [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@212.152.219.90] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:59 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@212.152.219.90] has quit [Changing host] 00:59 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:00 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:08 -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc13-swan4-2-0-cust361.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:08 -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc13-swan4-2-0-cust361.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:08 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:13 -!- gribble [~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:19 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20 -!- sausage_factory [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:20 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:21 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:24 -!- gribble [~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:25 < jl2012> luke-jr: I'm trying to run your SHF. I mined some blocks in regtest and getblock returns something like this: 01:25 < jl2012> 000000000300003000000000573afcb569307e456f08ee5f86863e1d944fa5d98738ee750c7637ed618f830e57a63a58ffff7f200100000000000000009e2e6bfa6b4596983812df5a00826a62e508e87d28fcc4dc2b20e8910f3c6c85000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000101000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000 01:25 < jl2012> 000000000000000000000000ffffffff0502ad010101ffffffff02807c814a000000002321035bb1ed70ac081f36f9a782f672ac07650f9f562fa859037d840d823e5a874dfeac0000000000000000266a24aa21a9ede2f61c3f71d1defd3fa999dfa36953755c690689799962b48bebd836974e8cf900000000 01:25 < luke-jr> jl2012: ok 01:26 < jl2012> I suppose the initial 4 bytes should be nHeight, but it is shown as a fixed value of "00000000" 01:26 < luke-jr> hmm 01:27 < jl2012> 03000030 is the nDeploymentsoft, with testdummy, csv, and segwit 01:28 < jl2012> and the following 4 bytes is nDeploymenthard 01:40 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:41 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:41 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:42 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:15 -!- rogerSmith [~toshi@185.93.181.93] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:15 * rogerSmith Get your free bitcoin bot http://www.bitcoinblackhat.com/member.php?action=register&referrer=10332 02:16 * rogerSmith Get your free bitcoin bot http://www.bitcoinblackhat.com/member.php?action=register&referrer=10332 02:16 -!- rogerSmith [~toshi@185.93.181.93] has quit [Client Quit] 02:36 < sn0wmonster> oh joy 02:39 -!- Topogetcyrpto [~Topogetcy@41.141.204.45] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:45 -!- atgreen [~green@CPE10da438ecb59-CM00fc8d24cab0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- harrymm [~wayne@104.222.140.91] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:48 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:53 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@71-220-119-195.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:58 -!- Yogh [~Yogh@f36186.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:02 -!- harrymm [~wayne@104.222.140.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:03 -!- Yogh [~Yogh@f36186.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:05 -!- johnnygud [6cab83bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.171.131.189] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:05 -!- johnnygud [6cab83bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.171.131.189] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 03:07 -!- kai [~kai@p200300738E4D6D00CD9A2EC2A1A1FCB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:10 -!- johnnygud [6cab83bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.171.131.189] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:11 -!- johnnygud [6cab83bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.171.131.189] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 03:23 -!- harrymm [~wayne@104.222.140.89] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:36 -!- sdfgdsfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52 -!- e4xit [~e4xit@cpc1-cmbg20-2-0-cust188.5-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:53 -!- e4xit [~e4xit@cpc1-cmbg20-2-0-cust188.5-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:17 -!- Anduck_ [~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:17 -!- Anduck_ [~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has quit [Client Quit] 04:24 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:32 -!- Topogetcyrpto_ [~Topogetcy@105.158.224.241] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:34 -!- Topogetcyrpto [~Topogetcy@41.141.204.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:34 -!- Topogetcyrpto_ is now known as Topogetcyrpto 04:38 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@193.34.160.189] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:41 < jl2012> luke-jr: why you have this check? nNonceC2 >> 0x18 04:45 < jl2012> shouldn't you asset the opposite? 04:53 -!- Topogetcyrpto_ [~Topogetcy@41.141.193.137] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:55 -!- Topogetcyrpto [~Topogetcy@105.158.224.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:55 -!- Topogetcyrpto_ is now known as Topogetcyrpto 05:04 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@193.34.160.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:06 -!- atgreen [~green@CPE10da438ecb59-CM00fc8d24cab0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:24 -!- sausage_factory [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:26 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:26 -!- MoALTz [~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:35 -!- fabianfabian [~fabianfab@5ED16358.cm-7-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:36 < jl2012> luke-jr: if we later want to add UTXO/TXO commitment and merkle sum tree through a softfork, do you expect that to be added to Hash CMR ("Commitment Merkle Root")? 06:09 -!- CrazyLoaf [uid67551@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxsskygjzifdpjge] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:39 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:39 -!- QuickLazy [~QuickLazy@cm-84.210.19.113.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:46 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@71-220-96-181.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:59 -!- QuickLazy [~QuickLazy@cm-84.210.19.113.getinternet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:01 -!- pro [~pro@unaffiliated/pro] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:04 < luke-jr> jl2012: I think that assert should be opposite, yes 07:05 < jl2012> but what would happen if someone send me a block with nNonceC2 >= 2^24 ? Will my node crash due to this assert? 07:05 < luke-jr> yes, CMR looks like the place to add other commitments 07:05 < luke-jr> jl2012: right now, probably 07:06 < luke-jr> need a way for GetHash to say "invalid data" :P 07:06 < jl2012> or make it a uint16 + uint8 , sounds like a hack 07:07 < luke-jr> oh 07:07 < luke-jr> right, it's impossible to get more than 24 bits in there :D 07:07 < luke-jr> or should be 07:07 < jl2012> also saving 1 byte 07:08 < luke-jr> need to teach serialization to only do 3 bytes there 07:11 < kanzure> andytoshi: when you have a moment sometime, could you write down your "SNARK analogy" for mimblewimble? 07:11 < kanzure> (the one about "a very limited SNARK, by analogy only") 07:22 -!- harrymm [~wayne@104.222.140.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:28 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:28 < jl2012> luke-jr: I just split it into 2 fields (16 + 8) for now 07:28 < jl2012> seems work 07:30 < jl2012> if the size of vhashCMTBranches is 0, the value of the first 4 bytes of class 3 nonce is irrelevant? 07:41 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:48 -!- QuickLazy [~QuickLazy@cm-84.210.19.113.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:50 -!- QuickLazy [~QuickLazy@cm-84.210.19.113.getinternet.no] has quit [Client Quit] 07:56 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:01 -!- MoALTz [~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:03 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:04 -!- atgreen [~green@CPE10da438ecb59-CM00fc8d24cab0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:10 -!- sausage_factory [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:16 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-178-34.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21 -!- ipwn [~ipwn@bl18-232-89.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:33 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-178-187.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:34 -!- kai [~kai@p200300738E4D6D00CD9A2EC2A1A1FCB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 08:46 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:50 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@67.205.158.84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 < jl2012> luke-jr: in the Header C you use transaction size/weight instead of block size/weight. Is your intention not to count the block header? 09:06 -!- v20100 [~20100@166.62.165.186] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:08 < jl2012> also, the "Merkle tree algorithm" is not implemented yet? https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/bip-mmhf/bip-mmhf.mediawiki#Merkle_tree_algorithm 09:15 -!- fabianfabian [~fabianfab@5ED16358.cm-7-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: why] 09:19 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:27 -!- igno_peverell [~igno_pev@gateway/tor-sasl/ignopeverell/x-86067662] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:31 -!- CoinGate [4e3c25cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.60.37.204] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:33 < CoinGate> Hello everyone! I have an issue implementing BIP70. The issue is that I can not get the certificate to validate, i.e. it works, but it gets marked in yellow color in Bitcoin Core instead of green. Is there anyone who could help me? 09:37 < CoinGate> The issue if described here, and I could also give more information if needed: https://github.com/bumi/bip70-example/issues/1 Any help would be greatly appreciated. 09:38 < kanzure> use #bitcoin or #bitcoin-dev maybe 09:42 < CoinGate> Thank you for your reply. When I try to join #bitcoin-dev, I get error "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services". How do I get identified? Sorry if this is a noobish question. 09:45 < belcher> /msg nickserv register i believe CoinGate 09:47 < CoinGate> Thank you, that worked! 09:57 -!- CoinGate [4e3c25cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.60.37.204] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:20 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:29 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:32 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46 < luke-jr> jl2012: maybe Header C should include nonce space to repurpose as additional commitments later 10:47 < luke-jr> jl2012: yes, block header cannot count in H-C I think.. 10:47 < luke-jr> jl2012: after all, you may be merge-mining 10:47 < luke-jr> jl2012: MT algo is not implemented yet, correct 10:50 < jl2012> luke-jr: with some hacking I think I'm able to get it working: https://github.com/jl2012/bitcoin/tree/hardfork2016 10:50 < jl2012> with basic mining 10:51 < jl2012> but it still uses ExtraNonce in the real coinbase tx 10:51 < luke-jr> real = inside the HF block data? 10:52 < luke-jr> or H-C? 10:52 < jl2012> the real paying tx 10:52 < luke-jr> no big deal IMO 10:52 < jl2012> yes 10:52 < luke-jr> heck, I probably wouldn't even change that in the main HF PR 10:52 < luke-jr> let it be optimised later 10:53 < luke-jr> miners are going to be constructing their own H-C anyway 10:53 < jl2012> it seems easier than I thought. The more challenging tasks is to work with old clients 10:54 < luke-jr> indeed 10:54 < luke-jr> but really, that *could* just be a custom bridge 10:54 < luke-jr> ie, not in bitcoind 10:54 < jl2012> yes 10:54 < jl2012> but pre-fork is more problematic? 10:54 < luke-jr> it might be better to have it in bitcoind anyway though 10:55 < luke-jr> since we need to handle the old-client-upgrading-post-fork scenario 10:55 < luke-jr> right, that too 10:55 < luke-jr> we want to interop pre-fork of course 10:55 < luke-jr> plus we have experience doing this with segwit to a degree 10:56 < luke-jr> SHF and segwit's tricks are pretty similar 10:56 < jl2012> yes 10:56 < jl2012> have you considered to put the merkle root in scriptPubKey? That leaves more space for nonce3 10:57 < jl2012> also the 4 byte merkle root nonce 10:57 < luke-jr> hmm 10:58 < luke-jr> complicates H-B encoding somewhat 10:58 < jl2012> only a little bit? both are fixed size 10:59 < jl2012> OP_RETURN 0x24 hash|nonce 11:02 < jl2012> what is the benefit of your mekle tree algorithm over the original one? I think it's related to the mechanism of SHA256. Any reading? 11:05 < luke-jr> jl2012: right now it's basically 11:06 < luke-jr> jl2012: the MT algo commits to metadata 11:06 < luke-jr> jl2012: right now we have a theoretical-but-AFAIK-impractical exploit in Bitcoin's MT algo, and the new one fixes that 11:11 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@67.205.158.84] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:13 < jl2012> luke-jr: is it related to this? https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/pull/75 11:14 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:14 < luke-jr> no 11:17 < luke-jr> but maybe something there worth integrating 11:17 < kanzure> .title 11:17 < yoleaux> Segwit arbitrary commitment trees & faster hashing by maaku ? Pull Request #75 ? sipa/bitcoin ? GitHub 11:19 -!- Topogetcyrpto [~Topogetcy@41.141.193.137] has quit [Quit: Topogetcyrpto] 11:21 < luke-jr> jl2012: ideally would like to use https://github.com/maaku/bips/blob/master/drafts/auth-trie.mediawiki for the CMR as well 11:22 < luke-jr> err, maaku deleted it? :| 11:22 < luke-jr> maaku: is the trie BIP draft somewhere now? 11:23 -!- ipwn [~ipwn@bl18-232-89.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25 -!- v20100 [~20100@166.62.165.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:38 < kanzure> why not merklix stuff 12:01 -!- v20100 [~20100@101-ca.direct.vpn.planethoster.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:08 -!- sausage_factory [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:10 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:24 -!- Topogetcyrpto [~Topogetcy@41.141.193.137] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:26 -!- CrazyLoaf [uid67551@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lijhuirylrmkzsso] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:27 -!- v20100 [~20100@101-ca.direct.vpn.planethoster.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 12:32 -!- Topogetcyrpto [~Topogetcy@41.141.193.137] has quit [Quit: Topogetcyrpto] 12:41 -!- WungFu [~WungFu@unaffiliated/wungfu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:01 -!- vorksholk [ae1cf56e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.28.245.110] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:13 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...] 13:15 < bsm117532> I'd really like a rundown on the different types of hash-prefix Trie/Merklix/MMR, their pros/cons, and what the options are there... 13:16 -!- rhett [~rhett@c-73-223-86-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:17 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:27 < jtimon> jl2012: didn't looked yet, but are you using the "hardfork bit" in your branch? are you using bip9? 13:27 < jtimon> seems no for bip9 13:32 < kanzure> yeah there's going to be a tremendous amount of riders if anyone makes an actual hard-fork proposal 13:33 < kanzure> (the "one hard-fork every 40 years" thing) 13:34 < jtimon> jl2012: not sure if luke-jr gets notification of this, sorry if you get notified twice https://github.com/jl2012/bitcoin/commit/572906a85f3aa8edfe9f9d36cb8a17861588db6d#commitcomment-19974846 13:35 < jtimon> that commit should help with #8493 too 13:35 < jtimon> maybe I just "steal it" for #8493 now... 13:36 < jtimon> and if you PR independently, please ping for review 13:37 < jtimon> nah, it doesn't really help with #8493 , but I still like it 13:38 < jtimon> kanzure: I'm not sure I agree with "one hardfork every 40 years" 13:38 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:4d29:a31a:644a:4b3b] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:48 -!- WungFu [~WungFu@unaffiliated/wungfu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:16 -!- sausage_factory [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:17 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:36 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@0.38-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:46 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:57 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:11 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:17 -!- dnaleor 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jl2012> This one can't use that because it's soft hard fork 18:11 < jtimon> right, this would be for a simple hardfork 18:11 < jl2012> I may propose a BIP for a soft hard fork bit 18:12 < jtimon> I mean, maybe in genral, you're removing rules and there's one bit that would make everyone know...I still don't see the disadvantage 18:16 -!- itsme_ [~textual@46.166.164.90] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:17 < jtimon> of course, as always, the documantation can't travel in time, it will still be "rejected nVersion=0x%08x block" 18:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:25 < jtimon> stupid idea: what if we put the message in full in the coinbase with this last message being a consensus dynamic string 18:26 < jtimon> that way, anybody could advertise himself to block explorers and full nodes 18:35 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:37 < jtimon> ie: 18:37 < jtimon> msg = msg_from_the_coinbase("it's the perfect pow-based advertising platform your IT department was waiting for") 18:37 < jtimon> strprintf("nVersion=0x%08x: %s %s ", "somebody wants to do a hardfork, see:", msg) 18:38 < jtimon> maybe with only one block you won't see the ad, but everybody will see the invalid block 18:43 < jtimon> I think is safe to establish that whatever the ad says, after 6 blocks or so (I didn't say 6, I said N), only unreasonable people would reject the ad as not being and absolute and undeniable truth 18:44 < jtimon> s/and/an/ 18:56 -!- moei [~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57 -!- moei [~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:24 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:28 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 19:30 -!- maaku 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www.textualapp.com] 20:59 -!- kankles [~kankles@104.200.153.95] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:00 -!- legogris [~legogris@128.199.205.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- legogris [~legogris@128.199.205.238] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:03 < jl2012> luke-jr: I'm not sure why. It seems after the fork, the node will fail to correctly send blocks to peer 21:06 < jl2012> how could I make it to print all p2p messages to the log? 21:07 -!- sdfgdsfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:15 < luke-jr> -debug=net ? 21:24 -!- Aranjedeath [~Aranjedea@unaffiliated/aranjedeath] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:26 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:30 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:42 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:2168:9803:e903:2760] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:42 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:4d29:a31a:644a:4b3b] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:44 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:50 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@178.187.52.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:52 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:53 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:07 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:10 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:17 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:19 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:32 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:33 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:44 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:46 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:46 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:48 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:54 -!- shangzhou [uid156782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdrhhsejtvahlkwh] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:56 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-timkokhnehrtczye] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:57 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:57 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:02 < jl2012> I need to see the block being sent 23:03 < jl2012> It works perfectly pre fork 23:04 < jl2012> After fork, the node will send out invalid blocks, even for pre fork blocks 23:04 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05 < jl2012> However, it works if I manually transfer the blocks with submitblock 23:05 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:06 -!- HostFat [~HostFat@host243-181-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:06 < jl2012> The setting is: node A is mining all blocks, node B is accepting blocks through p2p 23:07 < jl2012> Everything are ok if node A it's pre fork 23:08 < jl2012> once A is post fork, B can't validate (high hash) any blocks (pre and post fork) from A 23:09 < jl2012> So it's the problem of A 23:11 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:12 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:16 -!- Aranjedeath [~Aranjedea@unaffiliated/aranjedeath] has quit [Quit: Three sheets to the wind] 23:23 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 23:24 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:33 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:41 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:44 -!- moei [~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has left #bitcoin-wizards ["Leaving..."] 23:57 -!- maaku__ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:58 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Mon Nov 28 00:00:23 2016