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s/non-reputable/non-repudiable/ .. but in the context of bitcoin exchanges, perhaps it wasn't an error :) 04:00 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:02 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:32 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:33 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:38 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:47 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@host-46-50-214-114.bbcustomer.zsttk.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:52 -!- alpalp [~alpalp@cpe-24-27-58-209.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:52 -!- alpalp [~alpalp@cpe-24-27-58-209.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 04:52 -!- alpalp [~alpalp@unaffiliated/alpalp] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:04 -!- alpalp 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in a single transaction 06:10 < Taek> instead, transfer the outputs in a 1:1 ratio, with each output being transfered in a separate transaction 06:11 < Taek> have each transaction in the set require each other transction, to achieve the atomicity of a normal transaction, but then also have those transactions require a few other unconfirmed transactions in the mempool 06:12 < Taek> I guess you'd need to be a little fancier than that to make sure the original set couldn't easily be deduced by looking at the dependency graph 06:14 < Taek> if you are confident about your fees being high enough, you wouldn't need the atomicity 06:14 < Taek> then it's not even a soft fork it's just a wallet with certain spending habits 06:15 < Taek> to shrink the utxo set you could leverage something like TubmleBit or JoinMarket. 06:17 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:19 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:24 -!- ManfredMacx 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that have the word "journal" in their name. 11:48 < instagibbs> "Ledger" is already a prominent company in the space 11:48 < instagibbs> anyways, not wizardly I'll stop 11:57 -!- vshtokman [48f6000e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.246.0.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:58 -!- windsok [~windsok@45.63.59.8] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:59 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:06 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:07 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 12:14 -!- psztorc [~Thunderbi@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:17 -!- xissburg [~xissburg@unaffiliated/xissburg] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:18 -!- CrazyLoaf [uid67551@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxmtcegagrfjruly] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:18 -!- xissburg [~xissburg@unaffiliated/xissburg] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:23 -!- xissburg [~xissburg@unaffiliated/xissburg] has quit 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In any event, the ban was a year ago. 18:57 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [+o midnightmagic] by ChanServ 18:58 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [-bbb *!*@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bdsegnkqppgvahtp *!*@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fxdoofrzygycclgu *!*@*matrix.org*] by midnightmagic 18:58 -!- uiuc-slack [~uiuc-slac@li175-104.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [-o midnightmagic] by midnightmagic 18:59 -!- uiuc-slack [~uiuc-slac@li175-104.members.linode.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:09 -!- Jeremy_Rand[m] [jeremyrand@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ryeasglqpfynzmgj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:10 < Jeremy_Rand[m]> Thanks midnightmagic 19:11 < midnightmagic> np. 19:21 -!- alpalp [~alpalp@unaffiliated/alpalp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:44 -!- aqualeo_ [~palakmath@2602:306:307e:59b0:f94d:69dd:6cad:68a3] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:48 -!- aqualeo_ [~palakmath@2602:306:307e:59b0:f94d:69dd:6cad:68a3] has quit [Quit: Mutter: 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