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#bitcoin-wizards 05:20 -!- metric [~metric@199.127.226.246] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:20 -!- metric_ [~metric@199.127.226.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:58 < adlai> adam3us: that is a top-grade typo right there, you get the purple star :) 05:59 < adam3us> no AaronvanW coined the word SPY mining which i also adopted because I think it's more accurate than SPV mining. it's not really SPV, it's just spying on other poole blockheaders 05:59 < adam3us> (in a coindesk article on the topic) 06:00 < adlai> oh, life is too long to read every coindesk article 06:03 < adam3us> yah. i like it anyway "spy mining" 06:03 -!- brojollele [~herpur@114.120.236.83] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:07 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 06:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:13 -!- moimoi- [~moimoi@a91-155-120-166.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has 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But absolutely worthwhile if we can find a way to collapse the pubkeys into an o(1) or log(n) sized blob 10:14 < Taek> Not to mention, can't use a seed if you are doing client side validation 10:14 < Taek> as you need to remember the history yourself 10:18 < kanzure> how do oyu feel about accumulators for collapsing pubkey data :P 10:25 -!- so [~so@unaffiliated/so] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:30 < Taek> adam3us: do you maybe have some thoughts on using accumulators to collapse a bunch of pubkeys + sigs into less data? 10:31 < Taek> (we can already collapse the sigs with Schnorr of course) 10:32 < Taek> I guess its also worth adding that some work we've done with Sia would allow us to store data and then retrieve it later using only a seed 10:33 < Taek> IPFS can probably do something similar, but Sia can make formal contracts for storing the data 10:53 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@dhcp-077-250-172-150.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: zzz] 10:53 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@dhcp-077-250-172-150.chello.nl] 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