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09:21 < instagibbs> any details on STARKs? Both "snarks" and "starks" are Game of Thrones names, so google-fu is failing
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09:21 < waxwing> heh
09:22 < waxwing> not enough tolkein around here (george r r martin and rowling, meh)
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09:23 < waxwing> tolkien even
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14:47 < kanzure> instagibbs: we could interrogate Madars perhaps...
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15:05 < Eliel_> I just realized that if there's a sidechain with a 2-way-peg to bitcoin and that sidechain has a hard-fork where both ends of the fork end up living, the peg could be in big trouble.
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15:12 < gmaxwell> this is part of the reason that the spv peg we describe in the whitepaper can be indefiniately stalled by a fork with competing amounts of work.
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15:15 < Eliel_> ah ok, so the peg basically gets disabled if the sidechain forks and both ends of the fork are left alive?
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16:09 < maaku> is there a mimblewimble-specific channel?
16:11 < belcher> #mimblewimble
16:15 < maaku> thanks!
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16:58 < oleganza> Hello there. We have published an article about our approach to confidentiality based on CT scheme. Please take a look: https://blog.chain.com/hidden-in-plain-sight-transacting-privately-on-a-blockchain-835ab75c01cb
16:59 < oleganza> Hopefully we have given proper credit to all the prior research in the area, but if we have omitted someone or something, please let me know!
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17:25 < kanzure> this seems very similar to another scheme
17:25 < bsm1175321> Indeed it does...
17:26 < kanzure> they were even calling it "confidential assets" too hehe
17:26 < bsm1175321> They had to construct a "range proof" that their "asset IDs" aren't the negative of one another!
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17:27  * bsm1175321 keeps hoping for a breakthrough that would shrink the size of CT's...
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20:28 < waxwing> bsm117532: yeah that's the holy grail right now. on oleganza 's article, i'm wondering why base 10 digit commitments aren't too bloaty? is it because it's for some kind of non-public blockchain?
20:29 < oleganza> waxwing: base10 was used as an example. A bit below we mention that we actually use base4, as in CT.
20:29 < waxwing> OK, got it
20:29 < oleganza> it's just easier to illustrate with decimal numbers
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20:30 < waxwing> i did it with base 4 :)
20:32 < waxwing> i don't understand the comments above "it seems very similar" - it's explicitly work derived from CT, right.
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