--- Log opened Mon Feb 13 00:00:32 2017 00:02 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:06 -!- harrymm [~wayne@191.96.49.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:06 -!- udiWertheimer [~udiWerthe@bzq-82-81-94-166.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:09 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@105.red-81-33-161.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@105.red-81-33-161.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:13 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:28 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:32 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:54 -!- Guest65652 [~derek@2605:6400:10:3c9:dfd3:3e96:2608:98a7] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:58 -!- [Derek] [~derek@2605:6400:10:3c9:dfd3:3e96:2608:98a7] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:58 -!- [Derek] is now known as Guest40633 01:08 < stevenroose> cluelessperson, seemed pretty clueless 01:15 -!- JHistone [~JHistone@cpc102320-sgyl38-2-0-cust380.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:20 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-114-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:27 < jonasschnelli> Someone posted this recently: https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.02867 01:27 < jonasschnelli> (not on IRC) 01:28 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:32 < Taek> worthwhile table on page 9 01:33 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:34 < cannon-c> Wheres the file? 01:34 < cannon-c> See no .pdf or text file 01:34 < Taek> bar on the right 01:34 < Taek> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1702.02867.pdf 01:35 < cannon-c> Thank you 01:37 < cannon-c> Yeah see that now. 02:12 -!- gHEr [~JHistone@cpc102320-sgyl38-2-0-cust380.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:13 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:13 -!- gHEr [~JHistone@cpc102320-sgyl38-2-0-cust380.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:15 -!- JHistone [~JHistone@cpc102320-sgyl38-2-0-cust380.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:16 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:30 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:55 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:59 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:27 -!- lclc [~lclc@unaffiliated/lclc] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:00 -!- Bob` [~robrobert@c-66-229-113-117.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:04 -!- HostFat [~HostFat@host248-244-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:07 -!- HostFat_ [~HostFat@host220-91-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:10 -!- lclc [~lclc@unaffiliated/lclc] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:17 -!- MaxSan [~one@91.214.169.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:19 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 04:20 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:21 -!- Pasha [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:28 -!- Pasha is now known as Cory 04:51 -!- jannes [~jannes@095-097-246-234.static.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:56 -!- MaxSan [~one@91.214.169.69] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:57 -!- udiWertheimer [~udiWerthe@bzq-82-81-94-166.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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[Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:46 < Greybits> Hi! im new and not very smart and trying to learn more about segwit. to me it looks like lightning network is just a "man in the middle" proxy that can block transactions if they want to. why is lightning network good for crypto? who is bitfury? why do they have an office in washington dc? what do they do in north carolina by the military base? 08:50 < fluffypony> Greybits: #bitcoin, or #bitcoin-dev 08:50 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-25-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:51 < fluffypony> this is for discussion of theoretical ideas wrt cryptocurrencies 08:52 < Greybits> thank you. the theoretical idea up for discussion is that lightning network is a man in the middle proxy by the govt so they could reject transactions to recipients and monitor the network. 08:52 < musalbas> lol 08:54 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:57 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@243.37-191-171.fiber.lynet.no] 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