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I have a question. What whould happen if the internet was seperated for a hr etc.. Like the American continent was disconnected from the rest of the world for one hr, it would work as expected internally in America but not to anything outside and same witrh rest of the world. How would this effect bitcoin? 03:57 < fluffypony> Rudde: more for #bitcoin, but it would just reorg to the longest chain once the Internet re-connects 03:58 < Rudde> Oh, I'm sorry 03:59 < fluffypony> in an event like that US-based economically sensitive nodes would have to increase the number of confirmations they accept to like 100 or whatever 03:59 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@115.74.127.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59 < fluffypony> so that they don't end up accepting txs on the chain with less cumulative PoW difficulty (ie. the one that gets reorged off) 04:00 -!- mountaingoat [~mountaing@unaffiliated/mountaingoat] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:11 -!- Burrito [~Burrito@unaffiliated/burrito] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:11 < wumpus> also any node connected to both networks (say, via satellite) and passing blocks along could keep them synchronized. Excluding an "under the dome" kind of scenario :-) it'd be extremely unlikely for separation to be complete 04:13 -!- mountaingoat [~mountaing@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/mountaingoat] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:18 < fluffypony> smoke signals across the pacific :-P 04:18 < Rudde> I was assuming a "under the dome" kind of scenario 04:18 < fluffypony> transactions printed out and smuggled in dusty old books 04:22 < othe> prolly nothing as you won't even receive more than 6 new blocks within that hour, so the suggested 6 confirmations before a payment is assumed confirmed wouldn't happen 04:24 < fluffypony> oh that's also true - not enough mining power on the US side for the chain to progress 04:25 < Rudde> Ahh 04:25 < Rudde> Yeah, the difficulty would be too high, right? 04:25 < fluffypony> yep 04:25 < Rudde> Okey, letys assume a month then 04:25 < Rudde> Total solar flear death to the pasific infrasturcture 04:26 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrgcnhypcmgbgilu] 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isolation 04:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:52 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@ptr-fyxkxbwzc230frq7n1p.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:52 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@ptr-fyxkxbwzc230frq7n1p.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:53 -!- jtimon [~quassel@70.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:54 -!- MaxSan [~one@91.214.169.69] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:57 -!- ratbanebo [~ratbanebo@ptr-fyxkxbwzc230frq7n1p.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:05 -!- harrymm [~wayne@104.222.140.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:05 < Rudde> Taek: Okey, so I was wondering if it was self-correcting and handeling or if it would need human intervention. 05:06 < fluffypony> it would self-correct just fine when reconnected 05:06 < fluffypony> but being cut off from the bulk of the mining network would effectively stall 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