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exG$ committed to by $e$, we have a set of hashes $\{e_i\}_{i=0}^{n-1}$, each committing to $k_iG = s_iG - e_iP_i$, where the indices are considered modulo $n$. 07:04 < andytoshi> jnewbery: ah, looks like you're right! https://github.com/ElementsProject/borromean-signatures-writeup/pull/6/files thanks 07:04 < andytoshi> i'll merge that now.. 07:07 < jnewbery> ah, instagibbs beat me to it by 6 months! 07:07 < andytoshi> hah, yeah, i always forget to keep an eye on that repo 07:08 < jnewbery> although your comment in github: "Confirmed by @jnewbery" is worrisome. You shouldn't use jnewbery as an authority for your technical documentation! 07:08 < andytoshi> lol, i did look at it myself! 07:08 < andytoshi> so with instagibbs that's three of us, which is pretty good for an index fix on the borromean paper.. 07:13 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:13 < jnewbery> andytoshi: suggest you either merge https://github.com/Blockstream/borromean_paper/pull/2 or close to repo entirely 07:14 -!- nu11p7r [~zer00ffse@df77a6f2-3e4f-40ea-9281-16df17036d39.node.sporestack.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 07:15 < andytoshi> yeah, i'll definitely merge it, but i will reopen issue #1 because i'm still not thrilled about there being two repos. (it's not my repo and i'm unsure if there are links into it floating around, so i don't want to close it though) 07:16 < andytoshi> ...oh, i can't even merge into it. weird 07:18 < jnewbery> yeah - the excellent waxwing write-up on CT links to it, which is how I ended up there. (thanks for recommending that paper, by the way!) 07:35 -!- n1ce [~n1ce@unaffiliated/n1ce] has quit [Quit: bbl] 07:51 -!- hashtag_ [~hashtagg_@cpe-174-97-254-80.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:51 -!- hashtag [~hashtagg_@cpe-174-97-254-80.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:09 < instagibbs> heh 08:15 -!- afk11 [~afk11@gateway/tor-sasl/afk11] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:15 -!- bityogi [~textual@208-104-132-26.brvd.dsl.dyn.comporium.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15 -!- afk11 [~afk11@gateway/tor-sasl/afk11] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:15 -!- sparetire [~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:16 -!- K1NGREX [~King_Rex@unaffiliated/king-rex/x-3258444] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:19 -!- King_Rex [~King_Rex@unaffiliated/king-rex/x-3258444] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:33 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@c-73-170-224-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:37 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:957b:f520:6160:71a2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:38 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:41 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:46 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-25-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:51 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:57 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:18 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:41 -!- CubicEarthh [~cubiceart@2002:329f:7e15:0:2085:be31:2651:5bf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:42 -!- Davasny [~quassel@78.10.231.191] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:43 -!- Davasny is now known as Guest5214 09:43 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@2405:4800:508c:c9e4:6e40:8ff:fea6:df1e] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:43 -!- Guest5214 is now known as Dav2 09:49 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@adsl-71-132-90-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:57 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:02 -!- nabu [~jm@46.166.137.244] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:05 < bsm1175321> nsh: that's super interesting... 10:07 < bsm1175321> There exist 4 and 8 dimensional spaces (hypercomplex) that have never been studied, and I believe will yield important results about the Riemann zeta and therefore have deep implications for cryptography... 10:07 -!- edvorg [~edvorg@2405:4800:508c:c9e4:6e40:8ff:fea6:df1e] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:08 < bsm1175321> Quaternions, it turns out, were the wrong way to go and you can't construct analytic functions with them. 10:12 < bsm1175321> For those that don't know...the nontrival zeros of the Riemann zeta are precisely the set of prime numbers. 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One of the assumptions of the model made in chapter 14:14 < gmaxwell> 2 was that miners have the capability of claiming all possible transactions available 14:14 < gmaxwell> in their next block. This closely relates to the block size debate that is ongoing at 14:14 < gmaxwell> the time of writing. This assumption does not hold if the block size is small and 14:14 < gmaxwell> there is a backlog of transactions. In this case, immediately after a block is found, all 14:14 < gmaxwell> miners searching for the next block can immediately fill the block with transactions, 14:14 < gmaxwell> making the system more similar to how it is with a block reward. 14:14 < gmaxwell> yea, too bad they didn't also analyize further in that case. 14:16 < gmaxwell> we do today have pretty healthy backlogs currently https://people.xiph.org/~greg/temp/fee_avail3.png (red line is fees available immediately before a new block, green line immediately after. 14:17 < gmaxwell> though not always-- https://people.xiph.org/~greg/temp/fee_avail4.png 14:22 -!- CubicEarthh [~cubiceart@2002:329f:7e15:0:692d:c14a:bb10:cd25] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:32 -!- FungheZ [~Funghez@91.252.160.43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:34 -!- FungheZ [~Funghez@91.252.160.43] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 14:35 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35 -!- wasi [~wasi@gateway/tor-sasl/wasi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:36 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:36 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:36 -!- wasi [~wasi@gateway/tor-sasl/wasi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:53 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:54 -!- jailbot [~jailbot@unaffiliated/jailbot] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:55 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:59 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 15:07 -!- Dav2 [~quassel@78.10.231.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.181.223.146] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:19 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.181.223.146] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:25 -!- skeuomorf [~skeuomorf@unaffiliated/skeuomorf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:36 -!- str4d [~str4d@27.110.123.92] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:40 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:46 -!- itsme [~textual@46.166.164.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:49 -!- itsme [~textual@46.166.164.81] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:52 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:53 -!- jailbot [~jailbot@unaffiliated/jailbot] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56 -!- MoALTz [~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:00 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:03 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:03 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:05 < kanzure> .title https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-March/013928.html 16:05 < yoleaux> [bitcoin-dev] The TXO bitfield 16:14 < kanzure> i would still like to see someone try a snarks approach anyway (for block validity) 16:18 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:22 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:24 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:29 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:31 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has quit [Client Quit] 16:32 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:33 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:35 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@adsl-71-132-90-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:37 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:41 -!- itsme [~textual@46.166.164.81] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:47 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:50 -!- kristofferR [~kristoffe@91.37-191-173.fiber.lynet.no] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:52 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:52 -!- madacol [~madacol@200.84.233.209] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 16:56 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-25-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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