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01:07 < runeks> Oh, I see. Then it makes perfect sense. Thanks.
01:09 < runeks> And I see now how it would be problematic to have script whose result depends on what time it is. Good thing I'm not designing opcodes.
01:13 < sipa> there are two problems
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01:13 < sipa> one os that you don't want scripts to depend on the time, or you'd need to revalidate unconfirmed transactions over and over
01:14 < sipa> the other is monotonicity, that a valid transactions can never become unacceptable in a block
01:14 < sipa> otherwise it becomes hard to assess the value of incoming payments
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01:15 < sipa> "this transactions can only be included in blocks that have a prime number as height" would result in less valuable outputs, most likely
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07:43 < Guest76863> hey is there a best reference for the definition of "DMMS"?
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07:43 < amiller> I'm especially interested in a definition of the "unforgeability" analogue to a signature shceme
07:47 < andytoshi> amiller: pos.pdf is the closest thing to a formal definition, and it's not really close
07:48 < amiller> thanks
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07:48 < andytoshi> i recall working on unforgeability for some time but didn't get very far, it's hard even to define a "forgery" and then you have the problem of probabilities
07:50 < andytoshi> i think i scrapped the notion of "forged signature" entirely and was thinking along the lines of it being hard to make _any_ signatures if you had appreciably less computing power than you were claiming you did
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13:11 < adlai> Taek: i think you meant, "eth is not doing bitcoin is doing"
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23:25 < a87ry5> "trust minimal+tradeable bitcoin denominiated synthetic assets using the lightning network"
23:25 < a87ry5> https://0bin.net/paste/FeeYAZShoLLTvjZz#Yr2Z0jJqL+XAHoni5JTLkJQlhc5dlTYN4vXo5L1yD6d
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