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have some kind of HTLC (or just hash-locked) such that the two redemptions expose different strings (and only the participants can see the connection). so snoopers cannot link. 06:09 < waxwing-> i'm thinking, the main reason you can't is because hash functions don't have a homomorphism, if you could prove to cntrprty that H2 was H(x+N) when you'd only revelead H(x) and N to them, then you could do it. 06:10 < waxwing-> you could easily get that effect with elliptic curve points, but i don't think you could put that in a script(?) 06:14 < andytosh1> waxwing-: correct, doing this with EC points was suggested on the lightning list some time ago (and i cannot find the link now :() but wasn't used because of the lack of script support 06:14 < andytosh1> proving a relationship between H(x+N) and H(x) seems to require snarks 06:18 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:19 < waxwing-> right, thanks. yes i could see it being of more interest in lightning (or, well, any scenario where such redemptions were at least common enough that the intra-group fungibility is important) 06:19 < waxwing-> doesn't really help for fungibility with everyone else, much, since you're already in custom redeem script land. or whatever. 06:23 < andytosh1> yeah, for that you need scriptless scripts ;) 06:23 < waxwing-> "for everything else, there's scriptless scripts" 06:23 < andytosh1> hehehe 06:23 -!- rmwb [~rmwb@2001:df0:ce:1601:f5a4:4cf8:8d25:63cc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:24 -!- daszorz [~daszorz@188.94.18.118] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:26 -!- JackH [~laptop@46.231.18.66] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:42 -!- e0 [~e0@50-250-56-89-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:59 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:16 -!- Aranjedeath 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