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I have discovered a tragic, possibly even fatal hack of Bitcoin that can be implemented by anyone for under 30 dollars." 12:51 < fluffypony> sorry guys, throw in the towel 12:51 < fluffypony> it's been a fun ride 12:52 < sipa> who is that? 12:52 < waxwing> twitter is the standard channel for such reports. 12:52 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:52 < fluffypony> no clue 12:53 < fluffypony> waxwing: yeah, responsible disclosure at its finest 12:53 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 12:53 -!- gmaxwell [gmaxwell@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:58 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:05 < gmaxwell> The speaker before satoshi dundee at that event apparently https://people.xiph.org/~greg/temp/hasnt_heard_of_hash_functions.jpg 13:06 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.202.107.147] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:07 < gmaxwell> I was just seeking around in the video to get the start of the dundee part, and was astonished by that slide. It's like a bad parody except I assume they're serious. 13:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:11 -!- daszorz [~daszorz@cpc106809-live29-2-0-cust896.17-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21 -!- daszorz [~daszorz@cpc106809-live29-2-0-cust896.17-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:22 < fluffypony> gmaxwell: ouch 13:22 < fluffypony> also where's petertodd with a "HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR OPENTIMESTAMPS" slide to counter that 13:24 < gmaxwell> it's just so absurd, litterally the only thing we know how to scale endlessly and almost costlessly and it's fully implemented and in use. 13:26 -!- daszorz [~daszorz@cpc106809-live29-2-0-cust896.17-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:30 < instagibbs> https://twitter.com/theinstagibbs/status/880886221064593408 13:35 < waxwing> instagibbs: nice. it's a shame @otsproofbot excluded its own account from triggering proofs, that would really put it through its scalability paces :) 13:40 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:42 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:45 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 13:51 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:02 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 14:11 -!- prime__ [~quassel@ip-178-203-233-100.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:11 -!- prime_ [~quassel@5.146.5.174] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:15 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19 -!- execute [~execute@52.68.0.151] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:19 -!- blackwraith [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:24 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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ZZZzzz...] 17:08 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 17:13 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: arubi 17:19 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:20 -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkwvmyjryhxbwpgg] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: arubi 17:24 -!- CoinHeavy [~textual@75-164-149-225.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:32 -!- danrobinson [~danrobins@199-188-193-243.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:33 < danrobinson> I'm guessing his "hack" is storing illegal data on the blockchain. 17:39 < danrobinson> Fits the ~$30 price tag (what other type of attack would be in that price range?), his use of the words "tragic" and "ugh", his evident awareness of OP_RETURN and not much beyond that 17:40 < danrobinson> And his subsequent claim that "it works on all of the alts as well" 17:49 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:52 -!- danrobinson [~danrobins@199-188-193-243.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Quit: danrobinson] 17:57 -!- nullfxn [~nullFxn@107-147-126-52.res.bhn.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:59 -!- CoinHeavy [~textual@75-164-149-225.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...] 18:03 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:16 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:18 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:28 < gmaxwell> the poison is wrong!!!!! 18:28 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29 -!- nullfxn [~nullFxn@107-147-126-52.res.bhn.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:32 < sipa> ...? 18:32 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 18:33 < midnightmagic> sipa: He's watching the CSW video. CSW misspelled 'Poisson' referring to the process. 18:34 < sipa> well, poisson is just french for fish 18:34 < sipa> some thing, really 18:34 < sipa> *same 18:36 < midnightmagic> Named after a French guy though isn't it? 18:36 < sipa> indeed 18:36 < sipa> the abbreviation CSW is confusing 18:36 < sipa> i keep thinking it's opcode 18:37 < sipa> like OP_VER 18:37 < midnightmagic> OP_AFFINITY_FRAUD 18:38 < waxwing> OP_CHECKSATOSHIWRIGHT always returns False 18:38 < kanzure> op_cantsignwrongkey 18:45 -!- goofie [~goofie@104-7-174-119.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:50 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-snztfnuyjppnjgen] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:55 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.202.107.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:03 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:05 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-87-78-57-223.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:05 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-87-78-57-223.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 19:05 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:29 < gmaxwell> not just misspelled, but also mispronounced many times. saying "the poison is wrong!" 19:39 -!- danrobinson [~danrobins@73.93.143.110] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:39 -!- Dizzle [~Dizzle@2605:6000:1019:6032:855f:ad37:d714:a706] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:49 -!- pro [~pro@unaffiliated/pro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:50 -!- danrobinson [~danrobins@73.93.143.110] has quit [Quit: danrobinson] 19:57 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-131-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-131-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:07 < gmaxwell> I wonder what my favorite part of the talk was, -- probably where he goes on claiming that quadratic sighashing was added recently because of "shit code" and then shows two different screenshots of the mempool descendant feerate tracking (obviously unrelated to transaction validation) which he found by searching for N^2 in the codebase (the search appears to be the prior tab up in the browser)-- 20:07 < gmaxwell> an unrelated comment in txmempool.cpp mentions that the sanity tests are off by default because they have O(N^2) cost. 20:08 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:09 < gmaxwell> He then appears to show a "fix" which is a one line change which does nothing but change a condition in an assert statement; which I believe would make the software instantly crash when checking is enabled. 20:09 < gmaxwell> e.g. changes assert(stepsSinceLastRemove < waitingOnDependants.size()); with assert(stepsSinceLastRemove > waitingOnDependants.size()); 20:13 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:17 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:18 < gmaxwell> ah no, sorry, he replaced it with a comparision with a constant-- that wouldn't crash but it doesn't do anything (size() on a list is O(1) in C++11) 20:28 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:58 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:00 -!- legogris [~legogris@128.199.205.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- legogris [~legogris@128.199.205.238] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:15 -!- anon616 [anon616@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-lzwzwxswobroydoq] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 21:16 -!- anon616 [anon616@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-lzwzwxswobroydoq] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:24 -!- Giakamo [~Jamie76@146.115.158.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25 -!- Giakamo [~Jamie76@146-115-158-74.c3-0.frm-ubr1.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:27 -!- ivan [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:36 -!- _whitelogger [~whitelogg@uruz.whitequark.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37 -!- _whitelogger [~whitelogg@uruz.whitequark.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:59 -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkwvmyjryhxbwpgg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:32 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:43 -!- blackwraith [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:50 -!- Fibonacci12358 [499b80b4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.155.128.180] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:50 < Fibonacci12358> Hey Nerds! :D 23:51 < Fibonacci12358> I'm trying to figure out which side to support on the Fork. Any breakdown of the various features yet? 23:54 -!- Fibernachee [499b80b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.155.128.180] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:59 -!- Fibernachee [499b80b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.155.128.180] has quit [Quit: Page closed] --- Log closed Sat Jul 01 00:00:37 2017