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14:48 <@kanzure> i am curious about (non?)possibility of passphrase-based RSA keys, is it sane to do something like: H(passphrase) -> seed deterministic pRNG -> use deterministic RSA key generation procedure and always generate same key?
14:51 < betawaffle> sounds possible, but why?
14:52 <@kanzure> because who wants to memorize large prime numbers?
14:52 < betawaffle> who wants large primes anyway?
14:52 < betawaffle> you mean a case where RSA is required?
14:52 <@kanzure> you use small primes with RSA....?
14:53 < betawaffle> haha, no
14:53 < betawaffle> the part i'm not sure about is the deterministic RSA key generation
14:54 <@kanzure> my question was about sanity/security not about whether it's possible to make RSA keys
14:54 < betawaffle> i have this odd feeling there's a problem with that
15:00 < betawaffle> kanzure: "For RSA, this is less cheap and simple, because the key generation process entails generating random integers until primes are reached. This is still doable."
15:00 < betawaffle> https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/1662/how-can-one-securely-generate-an-asymmetric-key-pair-from-a-short-passphrase
15:00 < betawaffle> does that match what you're asking?
15:04 <@kanzure> it's not clear whether anything about this breaks the properties of RSA. and this is not mentioned in your link.
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15:05 <@kanzure> "and the RSA key generation process is susceptible to partial leakage through timing attacks, so this would be a bit delicate"
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15:13 < betawaffle> yeah, it would be hard to get right
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16:32 < sipa> kanzure: i don't see how it could break RSA's properties, assuming a perfect CSPRNG
16:34 < gmaxwell> it's how people generate RSA keys generally.
16:34 < gmaxwell> but it'll be slow...
16:34 <@kanzure> i see. alright.
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16:59 <@kanzure> straying from the usual topic a little bit:
17:00 <@kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/bcrypt/status/891739574669459456
17:00 < yoleaux> chief medical officer of Intel on digital biology: "The human genome is full of potential exploits." #defcon https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGAYZyNVYAAbkVN.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGAYZyMVwAEP12F.jpg (@bcrypt)
17:00 <@kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/bcrypt/status/891752069811511296
17:00 < yoleaux> "code signing to authenticate genome updates? what could possibly go wrong with having an x509 parser in your DNA" (@bcrypt, in reply to tw:891751001459310592)
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17:01 <@kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/891806007206268928
17:01 < yoleaux> @bcrypt Human biology is highly vulnerable, so we should make synthetic genomes and refactor the problems: https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/ultra-safe-cell-line/ (@kanzure, in reply to tw:891739574669459456)
17:01 <@kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/891808609272836096
17:01 < yoleaux> @bcrypt here is a proposal for DNA-manipulating proteins for error correction codes: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/enzymaticsynthesis/WvDidIldm7c/q7aQTnmkAAAJ not quite ECDSA enzymes yet. (@kanzure, in reply to tw:891752069811511296)
17:01 <@kanzure> okay that is all.
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17:08 < betawaffle> kanzure: terrifying
17:09 <@kanzure> could you clarify whether you have any skill in cryptography, mathematics, or software or related?
17:10 < betawaffle> software and a bit of cryptography
17:10 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [-o kanzure] by kanzure
17:10 < betawaffle> cryptography is just kind of a hobby of mine, no formal training
17:11  * betawaffle is ready to be database'd
17:12 < Emcy_> i like bcrypt
17:12 < Emcy_> she cool
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