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-!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@178.197.239.231] has quit [] 09:24 < nsh> pretty skinny commit considering the cumulative effect... 11 changed files with 195 additions and 64 deletions. 09:25 < kanzure> do they use secp256k1-zkp repository? 09:25 < andytoshi> no, monero uses ed25519 09:25 < kanzure> no, right, different curve 09:26 < nsh> oh no, this is the full merge https://github.com/monero-project/monero/commit/782a84f7b490baa10afef94dd6954d6ab50d020b 09:26 < nsh> (25 changed files with 1,911 additions and 95 deletions.) 09:35 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 09:35 < maaku> sipa: I went looking for the real reason for BIP 66 (the security vulnerability it fixed), and was surprised to find it not documented in BIP 66. Perhaps it would be appropriate to update the BIP after the fact? 09:36 < maaku> > This is, approximately, an 80% reduction in transaction size, which then translates to an 80% reduction in fees as well <-- fluffypony you're not weighting by computation? 09:37 < maaku> > Further, our initial testing shows that the time to verify a bulletproof is lower than for the existing range proofs, meaning speedier blockchain validation. 09:37 < maaku> <-- per rangeproof, yes, not per-byte 09:38 < maaku> oh sorry that is dealt with that later in the blog post 09:39 < andytoshi> i had the same impression, it might be worth rewording it somehow. perhaps start the sentence with "we have to move away from a byte-proportional transaction weight" or something 09:42 < fluffypony> if there's a better way to phrase feel free to submit a PR directly or open an issue 09:42 < fluffypony> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/blob/master/_posts/2017-12-07-Monero-Compatible-Bulletproofs.md 09:42 < maaku> It's probably appropriate for everyone except the 5-ish people that already understand bulletproofs. Someone not knowing the math wouldn't have been like "wait, isn't the verification time non-linear?!" 09:42 < fluffypony> lol 09:44 < maaku> similarly I was disappointed there wasn't a technical description of how bulletproofs had to be adopted to be compatible with ringCT, but also the wrong audience for that 09:44 < andytoshi> maaku: right now they only use the bulletproof rangeproofs, which are independent of ringCT 09:44 < andytoshi> i believe ruffCT is a bulletproof-like (also bootle inspired) replacement of ringCT 09:45 < maaku> ah 09:49 -!- bedeho [~bedeho@cm-84.214.5.24.getinternet.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:01 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pvnilfdbvrbfuvjm] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:06 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07 -!- rmwb [~rmwb@129.180.74.120] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:16 -!- rmwb [~rmwb@129.180.74.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17 -!- dhoulihan 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