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only h is publicly known. g, r, and m are confidential 08:40 -!- son0p [~ff@d50-92-132-122.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:40 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndqthxtpzlilqwhy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:04 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:07 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvhbeurrruwanckk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:16 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:17 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:17 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:17 -!- djhoulihan [~djhouliha@static-71-167-121-80.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:24 -!- Intensity [MTIm-IoNRW@panix5.panix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:25 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:25 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:27 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:28 -!- Intensity [ECOuT4H8Vm@panix5.panix.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:34 < maaku> sorry m is known (public) in this application, if it matters 09:34 < maaku> i suspect that having g be confidential makes this very difficult, but I'm curious as a first step how you'd do it still with a known generator 09:37 -!- son0p [~ff@d50-92-132-122.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:39 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zysoqlyagzlchfwn] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:57 -!- arluc [~arluc@2804:14c:5bd3:8148:c1b6:f695:c92d:ff95] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:59 -!- arluc [~arluc@2804:14c:5bd3:8148:a1bf:6af0:971e:54c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:01 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has 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If r=0 then and (r, g, m) is a valid opening, then (r, g^2, m/2) is another valid opening. 11:01 < waxwing> maaku, oh sorry i'm blind :) 11:05 < waxwing> nickler, huh, so you're assuming a scenario where g is not fixed? 11:06 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has quit [Quit: Newyorkadam] 11:07 -!- Newyorkadam [~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:08 < nickler> I was assuming a scenario where the prover fixes g. 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