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03:32 < Sentineo> maaku: ah ok thanks (regarding the hash singularities). Are those hashes checked, e.g. when there is a p2sh is core checking is the hash hashes to itself again? Perhaps as a sanity check to rule out the possibility? Well for a p2pkh one would need a signiture, so it is fine (imho) from singularities. What about p2sh? A simple data push is considered a valid script, is it not? So finding a
03:32 < Sentineo> ripmed160 singularity could allow me to spend those funds, right?
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04:01 < abomb> Sentineo, the neat part about that would be if the wallet had a previous transaction and after its accepted you can show you broke ripemod160 because of the two different public keys on the blockchain
04:03 < abomb> and there is 256 bits worth of private keys, and 160 bits of ripemod.... around 79228162514264337593543950336 times smaller of a search space.....
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10:33 < Chris_Stewart_5> Is anyone familiar with the difference between 'SKIP' and 'VERIFY' in BIP98? https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0098.mediawiki
10:34 < Chris_Stewart_5> It seems to me that a hash is just provided in both cases?
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10:35 < Chris_Stewart_5> and that hash is used to calculate the hash of the parent node?
10:35 < sipa> Chris_Stewart_5: VERIFY means it's a node you want to prove inclusion over
10:35 < sipa> SKIP means you just need to provide the hash to make the root validate
10:35 < Chris_Stewart_5> ahhhhhh
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10:40 < instagibbs> "SKIP means the branch contains a hash of an elided subtree or element, and the fast-SHA256 root hash of this subtree or double-SHA256 hash of the element is included in the proof structure; and VERIFY means the branch contains an externally provided hash that is needed as witness for the verification of the proof"
10:40 < instagibbs> from the text
10:41 < Chris_Stewart_5> i think the VERIFY wording is confusing
10:42 < instagibbs> i just skimmed for the definition, haven't spent any time digesting
10:45 < Chris_Stewart_5> "means the branch contains and externally provided hash" -> "means the node should match a hash we are trying to prove is included in the MT"
10:45 < Chris_Stewart_5> IMO
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11:09 < maaku> correct. SKIP hashes are serialized inside the proof. VERIFY hashes are taken individually from the stack in MERKLEBRANCHVERIFY
11:10 < maaku> you need both the proof object (containing the tree structure and all of the SKIP hashes) and a list of the VERIFY hashes to reconstruct the root
11:11 < Chris_Stewart_5> maaku: Ok I get the idea, I just found the VERIFY definition confusing. Might want to change if other people have trouble with it as well
11:12 < Chris_Stewart_5> especially the usage of 'branch' as, to me, that implies there is a child tree provided
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13:27 < maaku> are hybrid keys illegal in bitcoin?
13:27 < abomb> hybrid keys?
13:28 < maaku> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2012-June/001578.html
13:29 < sipa> maaku: nonstandard
13:29 < sipa> but consensus valid
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