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06:14 < contrapumpkin> kanzure: there's a ton of good stuff in your archive!
06:15 < kanzure> also i keep other topics such as http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/security/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/
06:16 < contrapumpkin> nice :)
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06:56 < Sentineo> May I humbly ask the wizards of Bitcoin to hunt down any mistakes, or correct me if I am wrong here? https://github.com/KanoczTomas/bitcoin-learn/wiki/Calculating-Bitcoin-Hash-rate I am light years away from wizardry, so please be nice :)
06:57 < Sentineo> I was trying to understand how is hash rate calculated, and exactly how the Bitcoin wiki formula came to be. Hope I got the math correctly there.
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07:01 < Flash298> Hello
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07:23 < waxwing> so about that static ECDH eh. great idea.
07:24 < waxwing> i remember asking gmaxwell what was the point of it when i read this: http://blog.intothesymmetry.com/2017/03/critical-vulnerability-in-json-web.html
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07:29 < sipa> waxwing: just saw the talk about that at 34C3 yesterday
07:30 < waxwing> sipa, yeah but that's partly why i raise it: is the new discovery distinct? i think it may be? the golang implementation or something?
07:30 < waxwing> to be honest, i don't know really what JWT even is :)
07:31 < waxwing> but i guess my other question is, isn't static ECDH crazy dangerous and why even do it. i vaguely remember some response about "resource constrained" or something. guess no simple answers with such things.
07:32 < sipa> waxwing: i believe the bignum squaring bug in openssl would also affect static-key ECDH
07:32 < sipa> with this attack
07:32 < waxwing> oh the one you found, right
07:33 < sipa> i found one randonly... later more instances of it were discovered using static analysis
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11:06 < Taek> nsh: DAGs in my opinion offer a lot of potential improvements to standard bitcoin consensus.
11:07 < Taek> Mining fairness is probably the biggest. You can construct a DAG so that miners with worse network infrastructure don't experience as great a hit to revenue vs. Nakamoto consensus
11:08 < Taek> The next biggest would probably be confirmation times. Because mining fairness is a lot better, you can reasonably bring the block time down to 30 seconds or less, and still have equal or better security vs. nakamoto consensus
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11:09 < Taek> Ultimately you still want to wait for a bunch of confirmations, say like 10 minutes worth, but because the block time is less than 30 seconds, the variance on 10 minutes of confirmations is only going to be a minute or so
11:09 < Taek> maybe a few minutes. But you won't ever be stuck waiting 3 hours for what's supposed to be 30 minutes worth of blocks
11:10 < Taek> The other benefit worth mentioning I think is that it smooths out network performance. With Bitcoin, you get 2,000 txns in the space of a few seconds, and then nothing for 10 minutes. But with DAGs, the bursts are smaller and more frequent
11:11 < Taek> I think that the reduction in bursty-ness is not such a huge benefit though, because it's mostly bootstrap time that's the bottleneck with regards to blockchain size right now, imo
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14:18 < contrapumpkin> anyone know of an implementation of this, or how feasible it is? https://monero.stackexchange.com/a/895
14:18 < contrapumpkin> I'm talking about the ZKCP part it references about bitcoin
14:18 < contrapumpkin> (apparently monero doesn't have scripting support so the usual atomic swap protocol won't work)
14:19 < contrapumpkin> in general, doing nontrivial work for ZKCP seems tricky
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14:34 < kanzure> .title
14:34 < yoleaux> cryptography - Can you trustlessly trade Monero for Bitcoin? - Monero Stack Exchange
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15:06 < eck> multisig support was only merged into monero master a week or two ago, so I don't know how well tested it is, but I did watch a youtube interview with one of the monero developers who said that was the last big missing piece to do cross-chain swaps
15:07 < eck> actually the interview was with fluffypony who is in this room, perhaps he knows
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23:30 < fluffypony> eck: it's the major part needed for Lightning support, which will give us cross-chain swaps
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