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some block, but won't become unspendable again (because all transactions have some sort of monotonic behavior there) 05:16 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:20 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:23 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:28 -!- nuncanada [~dude@179.235.130.137] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:29 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 05:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:34 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:45 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:45 -!- Belkaar 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joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:03 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:03 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 06:03 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:04 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:10 -!- anon616 [~anon616@ec2-34-229-210-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:11 < maaku> That would not be possible because it'd break fungibility. Do it as the business logic layer on an HSM. (Although why you'd do this is beyond me.) 06:12 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:12 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 06:12 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:24 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:27 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 06:30 < maxfp> .fuck fork 06:30 < maxfp> oops. wrong chat. 06:32 -!- Aaronvan_ is now known as AaronvanW 06:43 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:44 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46 -!- wxss [~user@134.19.187.45] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:49 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpahirrgympoulzf] has quit [Quit: Connection 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spendable for 20 blocks every 4320 blocks or something 07:19 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.48.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:21 -!- wxss [~user@134.19.187.45] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 -!- anon616 [~anon616@ec2-34-229-210-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 -!- danrobinson [~danrobins@64.25.27.224] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:32 -!- ryanofsky [~russ@jumpy.yanofsky.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:32 -!- anon616 [~anon616@ec2-34-229-210-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:34 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:34 < danrobinson> contrapumpkin: you can probably do this by pre-signing and broadcasting locktimed transactions with locktimes that are 20 blocks after the existing timeout, and whose outputs are the same except with the timeout extended by 4320 blocks. although this requires you to pay a transaction fee every year (and estimate it in advance) 07:36 < contrapumpkin> yeah, so you're saying just batch them up 07:37 < contrapumpkin> I guess that could work 07:37 -!- danrobinson [~danrobins@64.25.27.224] has quit [Quit: danrobinson] 07:37 < contrapumpkin> danrobinson: now I'm confused how you joined IRC, answered a question you weren't around to see, and then left :) do you just read the logs or something? 07:39 -!- maxfp [c7e6cbf5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.230.203.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:41 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:42 < Sentineo> contrapumpkin: nsa ... :D 07:45 -!- wraithm [~wraithm@unaffiliated/wraithm] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:55 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:02 -!- daszorz [~daszorz@188.94.18.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has quit [Ping 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I was wondering if anyone had thoughts of broader implications (or even just better examples) 11:07 < contrapumpkin> but I'm not going to complain about generalizations to ZKCP, either :) 11:08 < contrapumpkin> just hoping it gives us more neat tools for our toolbelt 11:11 -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpiscdxbddssybre] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:14 -!- itsme__ [~textual@x4d04e269.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:14 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wycsvmcfcgjhmsqq] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:14 < contrapumpkin> kanzure: also left you a PM, not sure if you saw 11:20 -!- pelfie [b96c8005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.108.128.5] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:40 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42 < maaku> contrapumpkin: simply put this business logic in your ledger/trezor 11:43 < contrapumpkin> well, they don't have their own timers do they? 11:43 < maaku> they do 11:43 < kanzure> andytoshi: sounds like he's lazy 11:43 < contrapumpkin> hmm 11:44 < contrapumpkin> maaku: I don't see how that works... how can they have a trustworthy clock built into them if they're unpowered most of the time? 11:44 -!- pelfie [b96c8005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.108.128.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:44 < contrapumpkin> anyway, it sounds like more generally you're telling me to stop trying to put it into bitcoin :P 11:45 < maaku> it is hugely layer violating and destroys fungibility 11:45 < maaku> and is a weird obscure corner case to validate for 11:45 < maaku> and ultimately is entirely unenforceable because you can transact using layer 2 protocols as many times and as often as you want, working around whatever blockchain-level restriction was in place 11:47 < contrapumpkin> that's fine, it was mostly just idle noodling about what might be possible, not something I was planning to make into some sort of highly PR'd app for end-users, even if it had turned out to be possible 11:49 < sipa> :D 11:49 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:49 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-90-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 11:49 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:50 < contrapumpkin> anyway, I'll stop harping on it, sorry 11:50 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50 < contrapumpkin> kanzure: am I the "he's" there? 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