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01:00 < tromp> waxwing i've been struggling to get through the stanford papers, so your write-up is a godsend. thx so much for putting in this major effort to share your understanding
01:01 < tromp> two typos i found so far: midway page 7 "do not hold" shld be "do hold"
01:02 < tromp> bottom page 12: C0 = sH + zG - Sum e^iCi
01:02 < waxwing> tromp, thanks, glad to know it's useful. on p. 7, it's a bit obscure but what i meant by 'two previous equalities' was r=s and a=b
01:04 < tromp> ah, ok. might want to make that explicit
01:04 < waxwing> on p.12 ah yes, thanks for that one.
01:05 < waxwing> yeah it's easy to confuse, agreed.
01:06 < tromp> (page 12 is as far as i got yesterday)
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07:29 < musalbas> A unicorn data structure that I want but is probably impossible: an append-only Merkle tree that supports non-inclusion proofs, with O(log(n)) time or lower for proving consistency (append-only) between different versions of the tree
07:31 < musalbas> basically RFC 6962's tree, but with efficient non-inclusion proofs
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11:29 < kanzure> musalbas: what is an "efficient" non-inclusion proof?
11:30 < kanzure> i know what a non-inclusion proof is (show the nearby leafs)
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12:06 < aj> kanzure: isn't an efficient one showing the leaves, and an inefficient one showing the entire set?
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12:23 < kanzure> that's what i had thought but i think there was another definition
12:26 < aj> kanzure: musalbas's problem is just that the leaves in an append only tree aren't in lexical order so the non-inclusion proof doesn't work i think
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13:02 < superkuh> What is a "Payment Protocol URL" and is it actually a part of the consensus bitcoin protocol?
13:03 < kanzure> it's not part of consensus but it's probably talking about the payment protocol from bip70
13:04 < superkuh> Thanks. I'll read up.
13:07 < sipa> the URL is actually in BIP72
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14:42 < tromp> waxwing: on p17, Cv for zero v, is just a public key kH, zk provable with a plain Schnorr sig
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