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Ok, it's true that is more likely to be reproducable 07:33 < stevenroose> You can f.e. have a canonical leaf ordering for m-of-n 07:33 < stevenroose> But f.e. with lightning scripts, you need special values inside the scripts anyways 07:34 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:35 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:38 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:38 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:40 < andytoshi> yes lightning is a case where graftroot makes sense 07:40 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:42 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Remote host 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