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11:16 < waxwing> new eltoo thing: https://blockstream.com/2018/04/30/eltoo-next-lightning.html
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12:39 < kanzure> SIGHASH_NOINPUT https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-April/015908.html
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12:53 < waxwing> sighash_single finds a use after all :)
12:54 < arubi> with the semantics as they are right now, you could actually commit to the signature in the scriptpubkey
12:54 < arubi> ie send to "<pubkey> <sig> <checksig>"
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12:59 < arubi> if these sorts of shenanigans are to be avoided, maybe the scriptcode can be redefined to just be just a single push of the pubkey that's being used for signing (disregarding the script itself).  I think doing that and keeping the prev txid as zeros still keeps the usefulness of noinput
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13:09 < waxwing> (quips aside; is using sighash_single and extra utxos a good solution to the fee issue? it watermarks these transactions and is a bit awkward perhaps?)
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13:16 < arubi> waxwing can you explain more pls?
13:17 < waxwing> arubi, oh sorry if it seems non-sequitur, i wasn't responding to your comment, just thinking aloud about what i'm reading in eltoo.pdf re: fees.
13:17 < arubi> ahh got it, haven't looked at that one yet :)
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16:52 < roasbeef> generally, being able to defer fees until broadcast time is what we're realizing it the most flexible approach, as rn impls disagree of fees all the times
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