--- Log opened Sun May 27 00:00:29 2018 01:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:28 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@S01061cabc0b054b3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:28 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@S01061cabc0b054b3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:28 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:31 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@226.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:50 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:24 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:27 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:36 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:39 -!- alferz [~alferz@unaffiliated/alfer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:51 -!- alferz [~alferz@unaffiliated/alfer] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:09 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:27 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:31 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:41 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-135-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:30 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:37 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:43 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:33 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:33 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:13 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:14 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:28 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:36 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:43 < bsm117532> I'm trying to construct a Proof of Elapsed Time using EC squarings. 07:44 < bsm117532> Let's say I start with a value x which comes from some source with entropy, for instance representing the most recent block hash as an EC point. (see sipa's "Rolling UTXO set commitments" post for an algorithm using sha512) 07:45 < bsm117532> After a series of repeated squarings, I have the values x, x^2, x^4, x^8, ... x^(2^n) and can compute any power t of x up to 2^n by representing t in binary and multiplying the relevant powers. 07:46 < bsm117532> Now...how can I use that to create a proof that I have computed x^(2^n) and therefore the value n is a "time" parameter counting how much time has elapsed while doing the repeated squarings? 07:55 < bsm117532> I'm stuck at how the verifier could possibly know t without repeating the computation, and that the prover isn't just presenting some random number that has nothing to do with x. 07:58 < bsm117532> FYI this is to be used with #braidpool, which needs sub-second accuracy on timestamps, so miners just putting untrustable timestamps in their blocks really won't work. 08:23 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:23 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:35 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:1dba:756d:d4e7:30f6] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:1dba:756d:d4e7:30f6] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:38 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:07 -!- goofie [~goofie@104-7-174-119.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:09 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:19 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:25 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:43 -!- satwo [~textual@2602:306:378a:6fb0:6f:a153:9039:688] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:51 -!- smk [b9d822ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.216.34.238] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:27 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:51 -!- smk [b9d822ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.216.34.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:10 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:28 -!- thrmo_ is now known as fullretrace 11:37 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 -!- binaryatrocity [~quassel@unaffiliated/br4n] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07 -!- binaryatrocity [~quassel@unaffiliated/br4n] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:08 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:17 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@185.94.189.189] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:18 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@185.94.189.189] has quit [Client Quit] 12:19 -!- aburan [uid272149@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-avfotispqezhdzuf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:22 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:37 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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