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01:04 < mikez_> Why were locktimes/CSV/etc implemented using nLocktime and nSequence, and not 100% in script?
01:04 < mikez_> e.g. it would be nice to do something like PUSH [locktime] OP_LOCKTIMEVERIFY
01:05 < mikez_> Was that only for backward compatibility or were there other, deeper reasons?
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01:18 < sipa> mikez___: it means validity of a transaction is a boolean that never changes
01:18 < sipa> you never need to re-evaluate a script in another condition
01:21 < sipa> so what we now have is a) a set of timing constraints on transactions b) scripts that assert properties over those constraints
01:22 < sipa> but the constraints themselves are visible without needing to evaluate the scripts (which may be expensive, so not something you want to redo all the time)
01:22 < mikez___> Hmmmm... interesting point
01:22 < mikez___> Thanks for your answer
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03:42 < fluffypony> botbot.me killed their search function - is anyone else logging -wizards with a search function ?
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08:00 < tromp> sorry for offtopic question: where to find bitcoin's current accumulated difficulty?
08:02 < swagwise> You mean this one? https://blockchain.info/charts/difficulty
08:07 < tromp> that is *non* accumulated difficulty
08:08 < tromp> is there a chart of the cumulative diff?
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08:09 < aj> tromp: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
08:11 < tromp> thx, aj. sipa to the rescue!
08:16 < swagwise> tromp: Can I ask what the difference is?
08:16 < tromp> cumulative diff is area under diff curve
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08:21 < sipa> swagwise: difficulty = how hard is it to produce a new block. cumulative difficulty = work = how many hash operations have been performed in total to produce the entire current chain
08:22 < tromp> (except that difficulty is expressed in unit of 2^32 hashes)
08:23 < swagwise> sipa: thank you!
08:25 < tromp> so there have been about 2^89 hashes performed in entire history
08:27 < kanzure> yes, which is why 80 bit security is now suspect
08:27 < kanzure> or, one of the reasons
08:27 < kanzure> one of the big reasons hah
08:28 < sipa> tromp: 88.926
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08:37 < andytoshi> wow, we must be at like 2^80 per week then
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08:52 < sipa> andytoshi: almost 2^84 per week
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13:20 < maaku> tromp: grep your logs for SetBestChain?
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15:08 < tromp> maaku sorry, not running a bitcoin node:-(
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15:35 < sipa> tromp: last line in mine: 2018-05-31 22:21:07.313846 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000000000174b9d7ba47bf7817fe41b9a868c6036a23e3d3c9ff365 height=525352 version=0x20000000 log2_work=88.928254 tx=319648644 date='2018-05-31 22:20:38'
15:35 < sipa> the log2_work is what you were asking about
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15:36 < tromp> ah, it's inching toward the 89 i estimated from the graphs on http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
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16:06 < samm_> Hello
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