--- Log opened Wed Jun 27 00:00:58 2018 00:02 -!- harrymm_ [~harrymm@223.205.156.52] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:06 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:07 -!- harrymm_ [~harrymm@223.205.156.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:11 -!- harrymm [~harrymm@69.161.195.103] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:19 -!- jb55 [~jb55@S010660e327dca171.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:20 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taelvzozbnphflex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:37 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-87-79-157-33.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:37 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-87-79-157-33.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 00:37 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:49 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 00:52 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:58 -!- wizkid057 [~wk@unaffiliated/wizkid057] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@185.227.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:05 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@185.227.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 01:06 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@185.227.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:09 -!- wizkid057 [~wk@unaffiliated/wizkid057] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:12 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:29 -!- vicenteH [~user@54.104.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30 -!- vicenteH [~user@54.104.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:30 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taelvzozbnphflex] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:44 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@185.169.255.9] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:45 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@185.169.255.9] has quit [Client Quit] 03:00 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:00 -!- echonaut [~echonaut@46.101.192.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- echonaut [~echonaut@46.101.192.134] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:01 -!- opdenkamp [~opdenkamp@kodi/staff/dushmaniac] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:03 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05 -!- opdenkamp [~opdenkamp@kodi/staff/dushmaniac] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:13 -!- thrmo_ [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has quit [Quit: Waiting for .007] 03:28 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:48 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:55 -!- modin [~modin@h-146-160.A444.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:09 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:13 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:14 < RubenSomsen> How do we imagine graftroot would interact with a chain split? The graftroot signature should probably be valid on both chains, even in the presence of replay protection. 04:15 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:17 < kanzure> hard-forks are responsible for implementing replay protection and AFAIK you can't preemptively force hard-forks to be required to have replay protection 04:19 < RubenSomsen> Yeah, I guess the question boils down to whether a fork would ever have a reason to build replay protection into graftroot, making transactions that rely on it unspendable. 04:22 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:32 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:32 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:33 -!- harrymm [~harrymm@69.161.195.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:34 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:46 -!- harrymm [~harrymm@223.204.199.135] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:52 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@195.181.167.150] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:03 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@195.181.167.150] has quit [Client Quit] 05:04 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:05 -!- dlb76_ is now known as dlb76 05:05 -!- dlb76 [~dlb76@eth0.darkblue.ch] has quit [Changing host] 05:05 -!- dlb76 [~dlb76@unaffiliated/dlb76] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:06 -!- jtimon [~quassel@40.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:07 -!- xeb [~xeb@host109-148-161-166.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:29 -!- thrmo_ [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:30 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:35 -!- thrmo_ [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has quit [Quit: Waiting for .007] 05:43 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@p2003004D8D2A8E00BDA9C1C37453EA45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:48 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@p2003004D8D2A8E00AC9BCCA14258DFA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:52 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:52 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:54 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:12 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@p57AD6101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:13 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@p2003004D8D2A8E00AC9BCCA14258DFA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:16 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:29 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 06:32 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:38 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:40 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:50 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:944c:3f21:861a:26f9] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:53 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:54 -!- quer [~quer@unaffiliated/quer] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:58 -!- dougsland [douglas@nat/redhat/x-tufomrnwqgkdxhup] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:05 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:14 -!- uhgf [72a211ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.162.17.174] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:20 -!- uhgf [72a211ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.162.17.174] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:24 -!- moneromooo [~moneromoo@unaffiliated/moneromooo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:24 < moneromooo> Hi. What are the benefits of https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0151.mediawiki over SSL ? 07:25 < moneromooo> AFAICT, simplicity and maybe speed. 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