--- Log opened Tue Jul 03 00:00:03 2018 00:08 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:08 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:09 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@unaffiliated/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:11 -!- testerx [9eb5b6e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.181.182.229] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:11 < testerx> hi 00:12 < testerx> anyone active here ? 00:18 < grzs> testerx: the channel is active, but nothing has been said for 3 days 00:18 < grzs> they are humbly hacking 00:19 < testerx> ah, cool. 00:19 < testerx> what is it about really ? 00:20 < maaku> This channel is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja 00:20 -!- Murch [~murch@c-73-202-31-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 00:29 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:29 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-89-1-57-41.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:29 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-89-1-57-41.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 00:29 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:45 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@29.103.115.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:50 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:55 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@x59cc9bd7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:55 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@x59cc9bd7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 00:55 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:02 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:02 -!- Belkaar_ [~Belkaar@xdsl-89-0-108-181.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:12 -!- RubenSomsen [uid301948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txnbihlwcjebttfb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:12 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:14 -!- Belkaar_ [~Belkaar@xdsl-89-0-108-181.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:14 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-89-0-108-181.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:14 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-89-0-108-181.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 01:14 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:15 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:15 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@91.216.245.111] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:20 -!- rilos [~rilos@unaffiliated/rilos] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:21 -!- testerx [9eb5b6e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.181.182.229] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:33 -!- rilos [~rilos@unaffiliated/rilos] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Segwit? 06:57 < mikez_> More precisely: it looks like anything that FindAndDelete enabled is useless... so my question is if it's absolutely useless anyway, or is there any usecase that is valid in classic transactions, but not in Segwit? 06:58 < mikez_> And than the reason it was removed only in Segwit is to avoid a hard fork 07:14 < andytoshi> mikez_: it's purely useless (and confusing) 07:14 < mikez_> Yeah, that was my feeling, thanks 07:15 < andytoshi> and yeah, it'd be a hf to remove in legacy op_checksig 07:20 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@185.227.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:23 -!- satwo [~textual@2602:306:378a:6fb0:3820:571c:d072:6d80] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:37 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@89.205.227.97] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:39 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@89.205.227.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:39 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@89.205.227.97] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:40 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@89.205.227.97] has 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(www.adiirc.com)] 15:54 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/building-on-bitcoin/2018/blind-signatures-and-scriptless-scripts/ 15:54 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/building-on-bitcoin/2018/coinjoinxt/ 15:58 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 16:03 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:03 -!- RubenSomsen [uid301948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zngyrfbvunlblewx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:07 -!- samm_ [~samm@176-161-115-196.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23 -!- son0p [~ff@181.137.68.184] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:26 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28 -!- satwo [~textual@2602:306:378a:6fb0:9538:eaa2:bac2:1335] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:38 -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lbdzhrwaazlnbejl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:46 -!- son0p [~ff@181.137.68.184] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:02 -!- ekrion [~ff@adsl201-232-238-252.epm.net.co] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:16 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdsmyhxsjvwriemq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:25 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@29.103.115.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:29 -!- ekrion [~ff@adsl201-232-238-252.epm.net.co] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:30 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:34 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-181-200.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:34 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-181-200.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 18:34 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:36 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-181-200.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:40 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-181-200.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 18:40 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:47 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47 -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lbdzhrwaazlnbejl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:48 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:58 -!- vicenteH [~user@54.104.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58 -!- vicenteH [~user@54.104.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:00 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:03 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:07 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:13 -!- ekrion [~ff@adsl201-232-238-252.epm.net.co] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@29.103.115.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:01 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:12 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:44 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:47 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:49 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:59 < maaku> nickler: can you double-check the equations in the slides? 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