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Rebooting the system could only possibly make it slower to spend coins, not faster. 14:48 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:52 -!- eKRENZKE [~ekrenzke@75-128-218-78.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:53 < kanzure> i think there are still questions floating around like "does anyone have access to SGX and has anything SGX actually been deployed?" 15:00 -!- elichai2 [uid212594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zjbhkoqfmjtytqsl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:09 -!- vicenteH [~user@54.104.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:11 -!- dx25 [~dx25@97-119-117-177.omah.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:12 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:14 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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