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02:50 < WizzOX> hello worlds
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10:53 < waxwing> https://github.com/Chia-Network/bls-signatures ... may be of interest here
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16:12 < kanzure> https://github.com/Chia-Network/bls-signatures
16:34 < gmaxwell> they have libsodium as a dependency for only memory allocation 0_o
16:34 < gmaxwell> benchmarks would be interesting
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17:21 < kanzure> https://www.commerceblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/commerceblock-mainstay-whitepaper.pdf
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17:23 < kanzure> er, whoops
17:23 < kanzure> "Mainstay: enabling trustless immutability in federated sidechains" https://www.commerceblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/commerceblock-mainstay-whitepaper.pdf
17:23 < kanzure> "DIZK: A distributed zero knowledge proof system" https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/691
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17:42 < kanzure> https://github.com/herumi/bls
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20:43 < roconnor> In https://github.com/sipa/bips/blob/bip-schnorr/bip-schnorr.mediawiki could verification be R = sG + eP instead of R = sG - eP?  That way I can avoid a negation operation when doing the verification?
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20:47 < sipa> roconnor: we can implement sG = eP + R in the verifier :)
20:48 < sipa> actually we probably implement R + eP + (-s)G = 0
20:49 < roconnor> Where do you get R?
20:50 < roconnor> solve for the y coordinate that isn't a quadratic residue?
20:51 < roconnor> In libsecp is it prefereable to use secp256k1_ecmult_multi_var over secp256k1_ecmult during verification for computing a linear combinator of two points?
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20:54 < sipa> eithee you decompress r into R, and put it into the equation
20:55 < sipa> or you compute R as sG - eP, and compute its x coordinate with r
20:55 < sipa> the first is batch verifiable
20:57 < roconnor> But say you are just verifying one schnorr signature.
20:59 < roconnor> sipa: actually again if the verificaiton equaiton were R = sG + eP, then you could implement -R + sG + eP = 0.
20:59 < roconnor> but to compute -R you'd construct the y coordinate this *is* the quadratic residue.
20:59 < roconnor> thus removing all negation operations.
21:00 < roconnor> during verificaiton.  It's a win-win.
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21:06 < roconnor> (It seems both secp256k1_ecmult_multi_var and secp256k1_ecmult end up calling secp256k1_ecmult_strauss_wnaf when given a linear combinator of two points to add)
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