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14:10 < ECH> maaku: So what's the point of the ecdh nonce in the confidential transaction if the amount is obfuscated in the pedersen commitment and the Confidential Transaction Address is in the scriptPubKey?
14:21 < ECH> is it used to verify the pedersen commitment?
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14:24 < sipa> ECH: it's there to communicate encrypted data to the receiver of the transaction
14:24 < sipa> (which could also just be communicated out of band)
14:25 < ECH> Which he needs to decrypt the confidential transaction?
14:25 < sipa> so he can learn the amount and blinding factor
14:25 < ECH> got it
14:25 < ECH> ty vm
14:25 < sipa> in particular, a CT output can't be spent without knowing the blinding factor
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16:21 < maaku> there's no consensus reason for the nonce to be in the transaction
16:21 < maaku> but otherwise you'd need an out of band communication mechanism and it'd be total chaos
16:22 < maaku> (use of the nonce should be optional though in any sane implementation)
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