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12:59 < waxwing> i've no idea what hyperspace cash is or whatever, but it occurs to me i should probably mention i saw this the other day: https://twitter.com/HyperspaceCloud/status/1038107380800581633
13:00 < waxwing> i corrected the attribution andytoshi :) they say it's an adaptor sig based atomic swap on ed25519, other coin is sia, i think there's code linked somewhere in the thread
13:02 < andytoshi> waxwing: yeah, hyperspace is a shitcoin but (unfortunately?) they are doing some interesting wallet stuff
13:02 < andytoshi> thanks for correcting them
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13:05 < andytoshi> i believe they are correct that it is the first swap to occur on any public blockchain -- though FWIW i have executed the adaptor signature part in this unit test https://github.com/apoelstra/secp256k1/blob/2018-04-taproot/src/modules/musig/tests_impl.h#L917
13:08 < waxwing> it's slightly funny to say you believe that though, given the key property of such swaps :)
13:08 < andytoshi> :P yeah exactly. i should shut up and go back to my "this could've been happening for years, there's no way to tell" stance
13:09 < waxwing> hmm yeah it's kinda funny they posted the txids ... even if they posted the T values it wouldn't make a difference.
13:09 < gmaxwell> in fact, the author of any transaction could create a false adaptor proof.
13:09 < waxwing> snap :)
13:10 < andytoshi> aw, it'd be fun to reply to them with some fake proofs from old transactions
13:10 < andytoshi> but i don't know how to access either blockchain..
13:11 < gmaxwell> did they publish code for this?
13:11 < waxwing> well, if those block explorers have apis that show rawtxs, you can strip out the sigs and do it right
13:11 < andytoshi> i assume so, it's a public fork of a public project
13:11 < andytoshi> waxwing: yeah, it'd be quick in sage, it's only scalar math i have to do
13:11 < andytoshi> oh, no, to get T i guess i need a scalar-mult. i can do that
13:13 < andytoshi> it's a bit frustrating to do stuff in ed25519 in sage because i don't know how to do things with the twisted edwards representation .. but at some point i ported djb's python code so i have some basic functionality
13:22 < midnightmagic> if you need some early block keys I can run super early proofs for you
13:22 < andytoshi> midnightmagic: with this we don't even need keys :P (well, for the ECDSA variant we might, i haven't studied that protocol)
13:22 < midnightmagic> \o
13:23 < midnightmagic> make one from satoshi then lol
13:33 < waxwing> unfortunately for CSW, andytoshi has not yet found a deniable protocol to move the coins without even making a transaction
13:35 < gmaxwell> obviously satoshi was scriptless swapping with hal...
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