--- Log opened Fri Sep 28 00:00:21 2018 00:01 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:24 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:46 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@77.247.178.186] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:50 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:26 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@gateway/tor-sasl/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:26 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@77.247.178.186] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 02:13 -!- phwalkr [~phwalkr@192.32.61.94.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:17 -!- phwalkr [~phwalkr@192.32.61.94.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:25 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 02:25 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:47 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-077-237-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:16 -!- wildermind [uid300433@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijnzckpqnthvmotv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:18 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:23 < RubenSomsen> Is there anywhere I can read about g'root? 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It doesn't go in-depth. Just a high level overview of it. 09:17 < CTnoob> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tyYvgqh76Tl_Z1FtO9Gop2iAzB9EeURC5vnzwnXpQdg/edit?usp=sharing 09:19 < waxwing> heh, 1^3 + 2^3 = 3^3 reminds me of the 'sophomore's dream' :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophomore's_dream 09:20 < CTnoob> sounds too good to be true... :-P 09:21 < waxwing> as stated in the doc it's wrong though :) 09:21 < waxwing> you talked about squaring and 3^2 is indeed 9 but unfortunately 3^3 isn't. 09:22 < CTnoob> oh shnap! My bad. Thanks for that. Will need to find a different example. 09:23 < waxwing> yes interesting thought pedagogically .. perhaps go with the old (a + b)^2 = a^2 + b^2 ? 09:23 < waxwing> what's that, the high-schooler's dream maybe? :) 09:24 < waxwing> true in some number systems ofc ;) 09:25 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:26 < CTnoob> That's a much better example. I think as it conveys the general idea that is enough, even if it fails in some number systems. 09:26 < CTnoob> ty vm 09:35 < CTnoob> Hm... would it be better if I just used this formula? (a +b) 2 = a*2 + b*2 09:48 -!- _tin [~tyn@104-56-112-203.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:59 -!- Murch [~murch@50-200-105-218-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:04 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:09 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@62.112.9.237] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:37 -!- worstadmin [sid56056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bdhvmtjuzxkyxsuo] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 10:42 -!- Guest89277 [~schmidty@104-7-216-111.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:58 -!- PaulTroon [~Paul@h-5-150-248-150.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:06 -!- CTnoob [6ccf2d71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.207.45.113] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:06 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@104-7-216-111.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:06 -!- schmidty is now known as Guest81722 11:13 < tromp> reading https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/601.pdf on verifiable delaty functions. page 3 says x^{(p-1)/2} = 1 mod p for nonzero x and p=13 mod 4 11:14 < tromp> but this is false for e.g. x=2, p=11 11:17 < tromp> it only holds for quadratic residues x 11:20 -!- balog [~balog@static-208-124-107-194.consolidated.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:23 < tromp> oh, above shld say p=3 mod 4 11:31 < gmaxwell> tromp: reconizing the formula above, you might also be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation_polynomial#Small_degree 11:41 -!- MarcoFalke [~none@198.12.116.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:45 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@62.112.9.237] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 11:49 -!- wildermind [uid300433@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijnzckpqnthvmotv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:58 -!- vdo [~vdo1138@unaffiliated/vdo] has quit [Quit: hopp!] 11:58 -!- vdo [~vdo1138@108.61.209.80] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:58 -!- vdo [~vdo1138@108.61.209.80] has quit [Changing host] 11:58 -!- vdo [~vdo1138@unaffiliated/vdo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:59 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:59 -!- tombusby_ [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:59 -!- victorSN [~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 11:59 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@gateway/tor-sasl/thrmo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59 -!- victorSN [~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:59 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@gateway/tor-sasl/thrmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:59 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:00 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:40 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:41 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:04 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-170-044-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:04 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:19 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@110.140.174.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:51 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:51 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:23 -!- prod_ is now known as zxzzt 14:25 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:29 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:43 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:43 < sipa> RubenSomsen: Anthony Towns' email to the ml in july this year, titled Generalised Taproot 14:49 -!- nephyrin [~neph@24.17.211.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:50 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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The name threw me off. 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For instance, the moon is in Spain. Another: stars aren't real. Also, cells are huge. One cell is roughly the size of a marble.] --- Log closed Sat Sep 29 00:00:22 2018